Fake Orders of Lenin

[desantnik]

Base is good but ribbon replaced and possibly suspension too.

[charlet]

I second this opinion: on the first two pics, the order is by far overexposed to light; the 3rd pciture reveals correct enamels, correct solid-gold grainy aspect and the typical light oxydation around the eyeloop region, due to the presence of silver to reinforce the gold loop.

The suspension should be a two-pieces metal variation.

[Militaryman1000]

So the Order/Medal is good but the ribbon and suspension ring is replaced?

Thanks desantnik and charlet for your help

John

[desantnik]

Yes, as you summarized.

[Militaryman1000]

Hello, I got this Order today and I always do a check on the gold Karat when I get a gold order. I do the acid test and when I tested it with the strongest acid I have (22KT gold) it dissolved the gold. I tested with 18KT and it doesn't dissolve the gold. This points to the gold not being between 18-22KT instead of the 23KT. I thought that all Lenin's were 23KT Gold. I had a Lenin a while ago and it tested to at least 22KT with the acid test. Am I missing something and not all Lenin's are 23KT Gold?
Thanks
John

[Bill Garvy]

Update: It was returned to the vendor & relisted.

Order of Lenin #327723

[charlet]

That's a pity. This is a genuine Lenin.

There is a discussion in a friendly forum about the real gold content of Lenins. A collector certified during the 60ies the Mint unofficially switched to 18k instead of 23.

[Militaryman1000]

Hello, I believe this to be a genuine Lenin Order and it is either a Type 5 or 6(one place says Type 6 another says Type 5). Any other input is greatly appreciated

Thanks for all help

John

[Militaryman1000]

Last two pictures of Lenin Order

[USSR]

Original. Nice piece!