Damaged, Repair, Clean, Preserve Soviet Awards And Documents. - Page 41

marcotk · 03-27-2009, 06:40 PM

This is a two men job. One will deposit a small drop of glue on the medal via the toothpick, while the other will then press them together for 10/30 second as hard as he can. That is it..! Since the metal cracked if done carefully you will be able to "re-match" the 2 parts together.

As far as the glue, any Cyanoacrylate will be fine!

Bogdan · 03-27-2009, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANZAC

This is what one looks like after a ring fix with solder. Blackened and nasty looking. Saving grace is it was done by the veteran in this particular case.

Brendan

Brendan,
That didn't look as bad as I had imagined but yes, it is still noticable.

jefflgarrison · 03-28-2009, 03:18 AM

here is my spotless BM. Help me "wrinkle" it again after the face lift.

EricFG · 03-28-2009, 05:49 AM

Well Jeff, you could find some nice black earth (preferabley Soviet issue), add a little water and make some mud. Rub it on, let it dry and then clean most of it off.
I've actually aged ribbons that way. I also age my ribbons by rubbing them between two bricks with some sand thrown in but I don't think that would be a good idea with your BM.

Fakers use some sort of chemical to give silver a patina. I have no idea what it is though.
If you smoke how about rubbing some cigarette ash on it? I've done that as well to ribbons.

jefflgarrison · 03-28-2009, 08:55 AM

I fear giving my BM cancer, so I won't do the last one. However, I might give the first idea a try.

LuisMoutinho · 04-10-2009, 10:02 AM

What usually the people used to clean the medals?
I have some dark, I wonder if are any problem in clean with a product to clean metal and silver.
I don't know if the product takes the gold colour of them

Best regards, Luis

neferet · 04-10-2009, 10:46 AM

Hi:
I clean every medal with the specific product for each material: brass, copper, silver, etc..
Clean soil at depth, but care should be taken with the gold to be treated more gently

neferet · 04-10-2009, 12:08 PM

... Luis indeed, not all the world like cleaning the coin, many people want to keep the patina that time and history added

Tretov · 04-10-2009, 12:11 PM

I would say, that the answer is simply "Don´t", awards has a patina which is better kept. If the recipient of the award chose to clean it, then so be it, but as collectors I dont think we should apply any chemicals.

EricFG · 04-10-2009, 04:20 PM

I prefer soap and water for obvious surface dirt. Nothing more than polishing with a soft cloth and no harsh chemicals.
There are a few threads about cleaning here:
http://www.soviet-awards.com/forum/s...ng-medals.html
http://www.soviet-awards.com/forum/s...not-clean.html

View Poll Results: Repair or not
Leave the damn thing alone! Don't mess with what looks like a period repair	12	54.55%
Have the solder removed to make the serial number readable	9	40.91%
Repair the enamel only	0	0%
Remove the solder AND repair the enamel	1	4.55%
Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

03-27-2009, 06:40 PM	#401
marcotk Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Italy, US Posts: 130	Re: Broken Ring/connection...fixable? This is a two men job. One will deposit a small drop of glue on the medal via the toothpick, while the other will then press them together for 10/30 second as hard as he can. That is it..! Since the metal cracked if done carefully you will be able to "re-match" the 2 parts together. As far as the glue, any Cyanoacrylate will be fine! __________________ Best, Marco

03-28-2009, 05:49 AM	#404
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Re: Broken Ring/connection...fixable? Well Jeff, you could find some nice black earth (preferabley Soviet issue), add a little water and make some mud. Rub it on, let it dry and then clean most of it off. I've actually aged ribbons that way. I also age my ribbons by rubbing them between two bricks with some sand thrown in but I don't think that would be a good idea with your BM. Fakers use some sort of chemical to give silver a patina. I have no idea what it is though. If you smoke how about rubbing some cigarette ash on it? I've done that as well to ribbons. __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

03-28-2009, 08:55 AM	#405
jefflgarrison Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Gdańsk, Poland Age: 59 Posts: 381	Re: Broken Ring/connection...fixable? I fear giving my BM cancer, so I won't do the last one. However, I might give the first idea a try. __________________ "Who will come to us with a sword - will be killed by a sword. Who will come to us with a feather - will be tickled by a feather!" - citation of Alexander Nevski

04-10-2009, 10:02 AM	#406
LuisMoutinho New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Portugal Posts: 6	Cleaning medals What usually the people used to clean the medals? I have some dark, I wonder if are any problem in clean with a product to clean metal and silver. I don't know if the product takes the gold colour of them Best regards, Luis

04-10-2009, 12:08 PM	#408
neferet Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sevilla, España (Spain) Posts: 56	Re: Cleaning medals ... Luis indeed, not all the world like cleaning the coin, many people want to keep the patina that time and history added Last edited by neferet; 04-10-2009 at 12:10 PM.

04-10-2009, 12:11 PM	#409
Tretov Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Republic of Finland Posts: 1,129	Re: Cleaning medals I would say, that the answer is simply "Don´t", awards has a patina which is better kept. If the recipient of the award chose to clean it, then so be it, but as collectors I dont think we should apply any chemicals.

04-10-2009, 04:20 PM	#410
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Re: Cleaning medals I prefer soap and water for obvious surface dirt. Nothing more than polishing with a soft cloth and no harsh chemicals. There are a few threads about cleaning here: http://www.soviet-awards.com/forum/s...ng-medals.html http://www.soviet-awards.com/forum/s...not-clean.html __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

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