Badge "My Motherland Is The USSR".

vikingraider1 · 04-24-2003, 08:38 PM

Sorry for the blurry images. I have scanned them this time in a hope to give a better view.

Nota Bene · 04-26-2003, 04:26 PM

Vikingraider1,

Thanks for the better scans. The back of the medallion says "My Motherland is the USSR", which was a popular slogan for promoting national tourism, and the NATO symbol was a tourist logo. I don't think it belongs to this suspension, which also looks a little too big to go with such a small medallion.

Alexei

Molder · 06-30-2003, 04:35 AM

Hi,
This badge is come with 3 grades, look:

Rudy

medaldude · 11-30-2003, 10:13 PM

Hello All.

I bought my first (I think) Komsomol badge today. Who or what was this organization? Was it an offical government group? I went through the Komsomol group but didn't find where any posting came right out and gave a difinition.

Thanks,

Tom,

HuliganRS · 11-30-2003, 11:52 PM

A youth political organization. It was created during the First All-Russian Congress of Worker and Peasant Youth on October 29, 1918, and was initially called the Russian Communist Union of Youth (RKSM), RLKSM from 1924, and VLKSM from 1926. The Union's first program specified that it was affiliated with RKP(b) (Russian Communist Party (of the bolsheviks)) and saw "its task in spreading the ideas of communism and involving the worker and peasant youth into active construction of the Soviet Russia." Additionally, the Komsomol's task included the communist upbringing based on the involvement of the worker youth in the political struggle, supplemented by theoretical education. Besides that, the Komsomol was a more popular organization than the party since the party was a leader of the proletariat, its members were supposed to possess at least a minimal political qualificaton. Komsomol was an organization aimed at upbringing, it could accept even "raw material", uninitiated young proletarians. Sturcturally, the Komsomol (TsK VLKSM) was directly subordinate to the party (TsK VKP(b)). The 22nd Extraordinary Congress of VLKSM (September 1991) decided the role of VLKSM as a federation of communist unions of youth to be completed.

Tretov · 12-01-2003, 01:40 AM

Komsomol is short of "Vsesoiuznyi Leninskii kommunisticheskii soiuz molodezhi"

/Patrik

dannybou · 12-22-2005, 12:06 AM

What was the age of the participants in the Komsomol? Did some units see combat during WW2 or were they used for other details due to their young age?

Dolf · 12-22-2005, 04:44 AM

Danny,

I don't know about the age (certainly young people) but I know they are often referred as political guides/advisers, and even participating in combat on Chuikov's book describing the Battle for Stalingrad.

I'm copying a few lines from Chuikov's book "The Battle for Stalingrad":

Today's Heroic Fighters

Kozlov, Andrey Yefimovich - machine gunner, member of the Komsomol. Since the war began Comrade Kozlov has killed 50 Germans, not counting those killed by his machine gun team. Since October 7, 1942, Comrade Kozlov has killed 17 of the enemy. Kozlov's machine gun team is the best in the batallion. Comrade Kozlov took part in the battles of Leningrad and Kharkov. He has been wounded twice. He has been decorated twice. Emulate Kozlov.

This is the text of one of those leaflets used for propaganda and for helping on the morale of the troops during the war, in this case in Stalingrad.

Anyway, this helps to confirm that Komsomol young people had not only a political role on the war, but they also actually participated in combat.
As for the age I couldn't find no info yet, but my guess is that at least some were pretty young, 16-18 years old I suppose.

Hope it helps.

Best,

Dolf

Al-muell · 12-22-2005, 07:19 AM

Many soldiers were KOMSOMOL members - there was even a special gap in a military ID to indicatw wether one was or was not WLKSM member.
So a member of KOMSOMOL could became a soldier, but didin't have to (ussually). There were no special Komsomol members squads serving as a special military units.
It was rather something of a Youth club...
as for the age limit for KOMSOMOŁ members - simply if one was too old for Young Pioneers he/she could join VLKSM.

Simon · 12-22-2005, 09:49 AM

[QUOTE=Al-muell]There were no special Komsomol members squads serving as a special military units.QUOTE]

I think there were. In a movie "One Two Soldiers Went" the unit commander reports that his all-Komsomol unit is lined up in a formation. Also, one paratroop officer in his me***rs mentioned that the airborne division where he served was elite. Everyone in this division was specially selected and was Komsomol or Party member.

After the war, Komsomol became an organization that everyone joined in school. One couldn't go to college in USSR if he wasn't a member of Komsomol!

11-30-2003, 11:52 PM	#5
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	A youth political organization. It was created during the First All-Russian Congress of Worker and Peasant Youth on October 29, 1918, and was initially called the Russian Communist Union of Youth (RKSM), RLKSM from 1924, and VLKSM from 1926. The Union's first program specified that it was affiliated with RKP(b) (Russian Communist Party (of the bolsheviks)) and saw "its task in spreading the ideas of communism and involving the worker and peasant youth into active construction of the Soviet Russia." Additionally, the Komsomol's task included the communist upbringing based on the involvement of the worker youth in the political struggle, supplemented by theoretical education. Besides that, the Komsomol was a more popular organization than the party since the party was a leader of the proletariat, its members were supposed to possess at least a minimal political qualificaton. Komsomol was an organization aimed at upbringing, it could accept even "raw material", uninitiated young proletarians. Sturcturally, the Komsomol (TsK VLKSM) was directly subordinate to the party (TsK VKP(b)). The 22nd Extraordinary Congress of VLKSM (September 1991) decided the role of VLKSM as a federation of communist unions of youth to be completed. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

12-22-2005, 12:06 AM	#7
dannybou Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Québec, Canada Posts: 284	What was the age of the participants in the Komsomol? Did some units see combat during WW2 or were they used for other details due to their young age? __________________ A collector from Québec!!

12-22-2005, 04:44 AM	#8
Dolf Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Age: 68 Posts: 572	Danny, I don't know about the age (certainly young people) but I know they are often referred as political guides/advisers, and even participating in combat on Chuikov's book describing the Battle for Stalingrad. I'm copying a few lines from Chuikov's book "The Battle for Stalingrad": Today's Heroic Fighters Kozlov, Andrey Yefimovich - machine gunner, member of the Komsomol. Since the war began Comrade Kozlov has killed 50 Germans, not counting those killed by his machine gun team. Since October 7, 1942, Comrade Kozlov has killed 17 of the enemy. Kozlov's machine gun team is the best in the batallion. Comrade Kozlov took part in the battles of Leningrad and Kharkov. He has been wounded twice. He has been decorated twice. Emulate Kozlov. This is the text of one of those leaflets used for propaganda and for helping on the morale of the troops during the war, in this case in Stalingrad. Anyway, this helps to confirm that Komsomol young people had not only a political role on the war, but they also actually participated in combat. As for the age I couldn't find no info yet, but my guess is that at least some were pretty young, 16-18 years old I suppose. Hope it helps. Best, Dolf Last edited by CtahhR; 08-03-2012 at 07:39 PM.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Order "For Service To The Motherland In The Armed Forces Of The PMR".	desantnik	Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic Orders	10	02-11-2014 08:56 AM
Badge "Serving The Motherland - At The Service Of Russia".	CtahhR	Unofficial Awards	0	06-26-2012 10:12 AM
Order "Motherland" (Otan).	Christophe	Kazakh Orders	0	12-16-2006 12:59 PM
Order "For Service To The Motherland".	new world	Belarusian Orders	6	12-29-2005 04:09 PM

04-26-2003, 04:26 PM	#2
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Vikingraider1, Thanks for the better scans. The back of the medallion says "My Motherland is the USSR", which was a popular slogan for promoting national tourism, and the NATO symbol was a tourist logo. I don't think it belongs to this suspension, which also looks a little too big to go with such a small medallion. Alexei

12-01-2003, 01:40 AM	#6
Tretov Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Republic of Finland Posts: 1,129	Komsomol is short of "Vsesoiuznyi Leninskii kommunisticheskii soiuz molodezhi" /Patrik

12-22-2005, 07:19 AM	#9
Al-muell Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wrocław, Poland Posts: 1,828	Many soldiers were KOMSOMOL members - there was even a special gap in a military ID to indicatw wether one was or was not WLKSM member. So a member of KOMSOMOL could became a soldier, but didin't have to (ussually). There were no special Komsomol members squads serving as a special military units. It was rather something of a Youth club... as for the age limit for KOMSOMOŁ members - simply if one was too old for Young Pioneers he/she could join VLKSM.

12-22-2005, 09:49 AM	#10
Simon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 173	[QUOTE=Al-muell]There were no special Komsomol members squads serving as a special military units.QUOTE] I think there were. In a movie "One Two Soldiers Went" the unit commander reports that his all-Komsomol unit is lined up in a formation. Also, one paratroop officer in his me***rs mentioned that the airborne division where he served was elite. Everyone in this division was specially selected and was Komsomol or Party member. After the war, Komsomol became an organization that everyone joined in school. One couldn't go to college in USSR if he wasn't a member of Komsomol!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)