Fake Orders of the Patriotic War 1st Class - Page 2

Shocktrooper · 03-27-2013, 02:28 PM

Nice piece :thumbsup

Shocktrooper · 04-12-2013, 09:00 AM

And another one for discussion ! I think it is good by the way... the only features that make me suspicious are the last two entries in the order book (Red Star and Red Banner 2nd). Could be long service awards too, of course...

3aStalina · 05-31-2013, 12:42 AM

how does this one look? numbered 56768. all the pics i have so far. thank you

USSR · 05-31-2013, 01:16 PM

I don't see any problems. I would say :thumbsup

Shocktrooper · 09-20-2013, 05:49 AM

Hello friends,

how about this one (for sale these days) ? Enamel on the upper star tip is replaced (no curiosity for this variation as everybody here knows and no problem so far...), stick pin has been at least re-soldered or just faked I think and the hammer & sickle emblem ist "strangely" up to not tightened by rivets... any opinion, if the piece itself is fake or genuine !?

Thank you !

Shocktrooper · 02-26-2014, 07:22 AM

Another one to stay away of ... :mad:

USSR · 02-26-2014, 07:24 AM

Why do you think this one is bad?

charlet · 02-26-2014, 07:57 AM

I'd say:
1) avers: white enamel with a milky aspect, and not in enoigh big quanityt (it doesn't level with the medal surface), letters too thin, the red enamel color (slightly too light, genuine one is deep red blood) and maybe the branchs star engraving (you see a central axis under the enamel).
2) reverse: gold look porous, and the patina stops too franly: maybe chemical patina.

Alfred · 02-26-2014, 08:23 AM

If I remeber right, the seller states: Piece is original but the enamel is totally redone (new).

best regards
Andreas

Nota Bene · 02-26-2014, 01:12 PM

Probably because the star and the "sunburst" piece came from different orders.

Alexei

03-27-2013, 02:28 PM	#11
Shocktrooper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 105	Re: Fake Orders of the Patriotic War 1st Class Nice piece :thumbsup

05-31-2013, 01:16 PM	#14
USSR Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Europe Posts: 95	Re: Fake Orders of the Patriotic War 1st Class I don't see any problems. I would say :thumbsup

02-26-2014, 07:24 AM	#17
USSR Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Europe Posts: 95	Re: Fake Orders of the Patriotic War 1st Class Why do you think this one is bad? __________________ Up to 3 pictures may be added to a post.

02-26-2014, 07:57 AM	#18
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	Re: Fake Orders of the Patriotic War 1st Class I'd say: 1) avers: white enamel with a milky aspect, and not in enoigh big quanityt (it doesn't level with the medal surface), letters too thin, the red enamel color (slightly too light, genuine one is deep red blood) and maybe the branchs star engraving (you see a central axis under the enamel). 2) reverse: gold look porous, and the patina stops too franly: maybe chemical patina. __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

02-26-2014, 08:23 AM	#19
Alfred Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany, Cologne Posts: 626	Re: Fake Orders of the Patriotic War 1st Class If I remeber right, the seller states: Piece is original but the enamel is totally redone (new). best regards Andreas

02-26-2014, 01:12 PM	#20
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Re: Fake Orders of the Patriotic War 1st Class Probably because the star and the "sunburst" piece came from different orders. Alexei

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