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Old 12-16-2009, 12:43 PM   #1
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Fake Republic Orders

Since the seller has no idea what this is other than it's "old" and Armenian and it is an "as is" sale, I had to see if anybody knows anything about this amazingly preserved order. It looks to me like the Armenian Red Banner Order of Labor (in absolutely amazing condition for it's "age"), but I'm not at home and near any reference material.

I know the pictures suck, and there were plenty of them, but these are the best.

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Old 12-16-2009, 05:28 PM   #2
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Re: Looks like Armenian Order of Labor?

:laff

Phillip,

Don't even bother...

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Old 12-16-2009, 05:53 PM   #3
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Re: Looks like Armenian Order of Labor?

At $2000 - it wasn't even a passing thought.;)

The one you have(?) is beautiful.:thumbsup

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Old 09-15-2010, 05:00 PM   #4
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Re: Fake Orders of the Red Banner

Here's one that's in a class of its own. I especially like the suspension. :laff
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Old 09-16-2010, 06:24 PM   #5
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Re: Fake Orders of the Red Banner

That is a Chinese copy. I'm not sure if they are made to deceive or not. I hope not as they are just awful as far as quality is concerned. Take note of the suspension as it's totally typical of poor, Chinese copies.
Maybe they are made as tourist trinkets? Or is it a subtle, communist plot to rule the decadent, Western collector's world? I'm not sure except for one thing; it's crap.
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Old 09-16-2010, 11:42 PM   #6
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Or is it a subtle, communist plot to rule the decadent, Western collector's world? I'm not sure except for one thing; it's crap.
It should be a crime just to make such an ugly thing. Where's the KGB when we need them?;)

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Old 09-17-2010, 12:33 AM   #7
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Re: Fake Orders of the Red Banner

As crappy as it is, it has some beauty in it. I kinda like it. I'd pay maybe a dollar on it. haha
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That is a Chinese copy. I'm not sure if they are made to deceive or not. I hope not as they are just awful as far as quality is concerned. Take note of the suspension as it's totally typical of poor, Chinese copies.
Maybe they are made as tourist trinkets? Or is it a subtle, communist plot to rule the decadent, Western collector's world? I'm not sure except for one thing; it's crap.
G'day Eric,

While I do not dispute your assertion that this is a Chinese copy I would be grateful to know what hard evidence you have to back up your declaration regarding the origin of this curiosity. I note your comment regarding the suspension but have you personally seen an ad for this copy from a Chinese vendor or know someone who has? The reason I ask is that just last week I picked up one of these very crude copies in an antique store in a remote country town in the the middle of Victoria, Australia. Of course, I recognized it as the remarkably crude copy it is at once but my curiosity was aroused and I wondered why it had been made and where it had come from, when and how had it ended up where I found it. Naturally, there's no way of ever knowing the "when" and "how". So, I bought it in the hope that someone on the fourm could shed some light on it. Although it is obviously a crudely made copper copy it shows genuine signs of considerable age. Then, when I finally sit down to post my copy here I find that it has already been posted and summarily dismissed without any serious comment or discussion. Anyway, here's the example of this copy that I picked up. If anyone has any factual information or serious comment about it I will be most thankful to receive it. Thanks.

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Re: Fake Orders of the Red Banner

I like the (brass?) copy myself. It's an ugly duckling, but there's something appealing about it. As to origin, definitely Chinese as that suspension/pin is typical of Chinese medals..

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I like the (brass?) copy myself. It's an ugly duckling, but there's something appealing about it. As to origin, definitely Chinese as that suspension/pin is typical of Chinese medals..

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Thanks George. I know absolutely nothing about Chinese medals.

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