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Old 08-03-2007, 08:13 PM   #1
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Visiting Kiev

I am going to spend a few days in Kiev, does anyone know interesting markets, maybe militaria shops, bazaars, anything worth visiting on a 'medal hunt'? I have been to the main tourist attractions but that was a long time ago.
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:23 PM   #2
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I am going to spend a few days in Kiev, does anyone know interesting markets, maybe militaria shops, bazaars, anything worth visiting on a 'medal hunt'? I have been to the main tourist attractions but that was a long time ago.
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Ask around, but two years ago there was a gathering of antique, militaria, and medal dealers at the Expo Center in west/northwestern Kiev. Really neat to see, but remember you can get in trouble if you try to export anything made before 1945.
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:24 PM   #3
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Thanks, I did not know about the pre-1945 cut-off date. Wow.
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Old 08-05-2007, 05:34 PM   #4
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Thanks, I did not know about the pre-1945 cut-off date. Wow.
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I agree, kind of puts a damper on things. Also, be very alert for fakes of medals, documents, and IDs.
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Old 08-05-2007, 05:53 PM   #5
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Ukraine

Yes, Desantik is right, Ukraine is full of fakes. There are quite a few markets in sumemr, but i was amazed at the total lack of anything genuine that was pre 1945.

Customs in Ukraine is very arbitrary, much like Russia in the mid 1990's. You may get by with a major item, or stopped for 2 hours over a repro medal you bought in a market.

While i loved Ukraine, i did not enjoy Ukrainian Customs at Borisipol or Simefropol.

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Old 08-20-2007, 05:40 PM   #6
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Law about Awards in USSR?

This is from Russian website today:
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Студентка из США задержана в России за попытку вывоза советских орденов
Студентка американского университета была задержана в России за попытку вывоза из страны советских орденов и монет.
29-летняя чилийка Роксана Контрерас, изучающая физику в университете Сент-Луиса (штат Миссури), обвинена в незаконном приобретении и попытки вывоза государственных наград СССР. Ей грозит до семи лет тюрьмы. Как рассказали друзья студентки, девушка купила шесть орденов и несколько монет по €49 у уличного торговца в Воронеже, и не подозревала о том, что вывозя их из России совершает что-то противозаконное.
Представитель штата Миссури в Конгрессе уже обратился с письмом к послу России Юрию Ушакову по поводу этого дела, заверив российскую сторону, что произошла ошибка, и что правонарушение было совершено ненамеренно.
В ответ российское посольство заверило конгрессмена, что студентка уже освобождена, однако, по словам представителей университета, которые также пытаются помочь Контрерас, она все еще находится по домашним арестом на съемной квартире в ожидании судебного заседания по ее делу. // Associated Press
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If it's illegal,-how items from our Collections had got here?
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:43 PM   #7
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Would you mind providing a translation please?
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Sorry! I am not such good with En. In general: Gal was arrested on the border with 6 Soviet Orders and few coins.
Looking for up to 7?
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Here is a translation from the Internet Translator

Student from the USA to Russia for an attempt at the removal of Soviet orders was delayed in Russia for an attempt of the removal from the country of Soviet orders and coins. The 29yaers old Chilean student, which studies physics at the university of Saint- Louis (state of Missouri), is accused of the illegal acquisition and attempt of the removal of the state rewards from the USSR. To her it threatens of up to seven years of prison as they described the friends of student, girl purchased six orders and several coins €49 each on the street ov Voronezh, and she did not suspect about that which exporting them from Russia accomplishes something unlawful. The representative of the state of Missouri into the congress has already been handled letter to the ambassador of Russia Yuri Ushakov apropos of this matter, after certifying Russian side, that occurred the error, and that offense was perfected unintentionally. As the answer Russian embassy certified congressman, that the student is already freed, however, according to the representatives of university, who also attempt soak Kontreras, it is still located through by confinement to quarters on the detachable apartment in the expectation of judicial session in its matter.

I did not check the translation, I hope it make sence,if in some place it does not... guess
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girl purchased six orders and several coins €49 each on the street ov Voronezh..
Ha. They were probably fakes to boot..
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