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Old 03-26-2005, 07:24 PM   #1
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Thanks for the info Marc. It makes sense that they might use different material to differentiate it from a standard (actual) piece.

I agree - I wonder if they were removed with the idea of selling them or a sort of sentimental value? More importantly, I'd like to meet that press operator and arrange a few exchanges! :D

Anyway - Marc - congrats on a very nice and interesting piece!
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Old 03-26-2005, 07:31 PM   #2
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It was not cast, but struck regularly at the mint. I believe that it is one of the pieces they strike to test and adjust the die pressure before striking the actual orders. Once the press has been adjusted, the test pieces are simply discarded and destroyed, so, the real question here is how did it ever get out of LMD!

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When I saw it, I just had to have it :D Well, you know the feeling, right...

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Marc,

This is a one bloc solid piece, right?

The holes where the rivets would have been are just holes, from one side of the bloc to the other opposite side?

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Old 03-26-2005, 08:07 PM   #3
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Sean,
It was not cast, but struck regularly at the mint. I believe that it is one of the pieces they strike to test and adjust the die pressure before striking the actual orders. Once the press has been adjusted, the test pieces are simply discarded and destroyed, so, the real question here is how did it ever get out of LMD!

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When I saw it, I just had to have it :D Well, you know the feeling, right...

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Marc,

I would have to disagree. To test pressure you would need the die to strike the end product metal. If you test it with a softer or harder metal the results are off. Also, why drill/punch holes in a test piece???

I do like the piece though!

Rusty.
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Old 05-30-2005, 09:19 AM   #4
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Dgharvey,

According to Mc Daniel's book, the one with a flat reverse should be a Type 4.

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Old 05-30-2005, 09:25 AM   #5
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Type 4

Thanks Dolf-
Just after I posted, I noticed that the difference between the Long, Semi-Long and Short ovals has to do with the length of the spans underneath the hammer & sickle. Judging by that, mine is a T4.
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Old 08-04-2005, 08:02 AM   #6
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RBL twin brothers

Hi to all,

Nothing special, just common orders of Red banner of labor. But for me it happens first time, that I found orders where serial numbers are number after number. So welcome to my collection- twin brothers snr. 1237041 and 1237042.

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Nothing special, just common orders of Red banner of labor. But for me it happens first time, that I found orders where serial numbers are number after number. So welcome to my collection- twin brothers snr. 1237041 and 1237042.

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That's really cool to see actually. Did you acquire both pieces from the same source? Or did you find them seperately?
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Nothing special, just common orders of Red banner of labor. But for me it happens first time, that I found orders where serial numbers are number after number. So welcome to my collection- twin brothers snr. 1237041 and 1237042.

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Lauri
That is a really super cool set I wish I had it, congratulations on your acquisition!!!!
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Hi,

they came from the same source without documents. I think they are unissued orders.

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they came from the same source without documents. I think they are unissued orders.

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That's cool stuff. Hold on to those!
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