Cap Badges

[RichieC]

As far as I am concerned, it is for use by personnel of the Ministry of Communications - pattern of 1948.

[deValcourt]

Originally Posted by Komandir RKKA

This is prosecutor's hat cocard

Originally Posted by RichieC

As far as I am concerned, it is for use by personnel of the Ministry of Communications - pattern of 1948.

Well...That's a bummer because if it is for the prosecutor's office, I would pursue it. If it is communications, probably not.

Either way, I think it's a good-looking piece.:thumbsup

Phillip

[RichieC]

See here:

[EricFG]

Originally Posted by RichieC

See here:

I assume those are the judicial badges since they're sporting a sword & shield?
PS. see page 412 in Avers8 for those.

[RichieC]

Trans-literal for this is PROKURATURA - So I would think it means PROSECUTOR/JUDICIAL...

[RichieC]

Here is an example of a cap adorning this cockarde. Ministry of Communications (responsible for radio, telegraph & telephone transmissions, communications satellites, and postal service) "employee" - made in 1953.

[desantnik]

Originally Posted by RichieC

Here is an example of a cap adorning this cockarde. Ministry of Communications (responsible for radio, telegraph & telephone transmissions, communications satellites, and postal service) "employee" - made in 1953.

Um, communications satellites in 1953?:)

[RichieC]

Originally Posted by EricFG

I assume those are the judicial badges since they're sporting a sword & shield?
PS. see page 412 in Avers8 for those.

Eric!

Please elaborate.

I have known about these AVERS references, but do not own any. Do you think it is required reading?

Does this reference show cockardes along with badges?

[deValcourt]

Originally Posted by RichieC

Trans-literal for this is PROKURATURA - So I would think it means PROSECUTOR/JUDICIAL...

It would be similar to the US Office of the Attorney General with Federal Prosecutors assigned to various federal cases except that in the Soviet Union you had all-union level, then district and local all working for the same overall "boss." Here each of these "people's" prosecutors (federal, state and local/county/parish or "district attorneys" operate independently of each other. The judiciary branch is supposed to be separate from the district and US attorneys, but that is a debatable point.;)

Originally Posted by RichieC

Eric!

Please elaborate.

I have known about these AVERS references, but do not own any. Do you think it is required reading?

Does this reference show cockardes along with badges?

If you like badges, then I'd say yes, they are indispensable, required insomuch as they often picture very scarce badges and occasionally accompanying document examples. If you are even barely literate in Russian, it isn't hard to navigate your way through the largest of the Soviet badge books (Avers 8). I think Avers 9 is out now, but it deals with badges of masonic and other secret societies of the 19th-20th centuries (picture attached). Not my thing.:D They are very well laid out with excellent pictures of mostly badge obverse ("avers") photos and where similar designs are involved, they often include the reverse if it is needed to tell one from another type or variation. They also have controversial prices attached to each badge (it is called a "price guide"). Most collectors believe that the editors were high when they came up with the ridiculous prices that are either way to high or out-of-date by the time the first ones printed are sold. You could probably get two average OGIIIs for the amount of money many sellers want for the actual paper edition of Avers No. 8.:thumbsdown There are other ways...:rolleyes:

If I remember correctly, there are a few cockades, but they are mostly for police/militia. I could be mistaken since those are the types of things I tend to look at most.:D

Phillip

P.S. Thanks for the photo ID of the cockade - the original reason this thread got cranked up again.:thumbsup

[meyerse]

Could someone date this one for me? It was sold to me as wartime, somehow I doubt it but it wasn't expensive so I bought it as a reference piece. It seems to be 32mm (but this seems like an odd size from what I've read on here, I measures from point to point). Any assistance you may be able to provide would be most appreciated. This is my first hat badge.