What is this ? Fantasy ?

Soviet · 05-20-2005, 08:23 PM

What is this a Fantasy MVD badge ?

dannybou · 05-20-2005, 09:01 PM

Not a fantasy piece, a legit one called : Excellent MVD Firefighter. The screw nut isn't original I don't think. Is it possible to see the reverse but with the screw nut removed? Now is it an original or a fake that is for someone else to say.

Soviet · 05-20-2005, 09:52 PM

Bought it for 0.99$ on eBay. I don't have it yet. I do have larger pictures, but I had to reduce them to 50k.

dannybou · 05-21-2005, 07:31 AM

This is a badge that sells for more than that. But you never know, and you can't beat the price you paid for regardless. When you do receive it, would you let me know the weight and material?

Soviet · 05-21-2005, 12:39 PM

Sure I will.

Nota Bene · 05-21-2005, 08:22 PM

Soviet,

I've seen those badges before, I believe it should have a round MM on the back and very bright enamel. I was offered those many times as restrikes.

Alexei

Soviet · 05-21-2005, 11:29 PM

What is the difference between a restrike & a copie ?

Nota Bene · 05-22-2005, 05:28 PM

Soviet,

Well, in numismatics a restrike is an officially authorised copy usually made with the original dies, but since the Russians had never authorised any of those copies, I believe we can safely call them fakes.

Alexei

dannybou · 05-22-2005, 07:27 PM

Alexei, for the purpose of my education in badges, would restrikes still have the circular mint mark as well?

Nota Bene · 05-23-2005, 02:13 PM

Danny,

There is a bunch of restrikes, that have the mintmark, like this fire badge and space wings. As a matter of fact I don't think they differ from their official conterparts in any significant way. The only reason I believe that they are restrikes is because my suppliers tell me so and can offer them in very significant quantities. Well, come to think of it, this fire badge has a very bright enamel, similar to automotive metalic paint.

Alexei

05-20-2005, 09:01 PM	#2
dannybou Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Québec, Canada Posts: 284	Not a fantasy piece, a legit one called : Excellent MVD Firefighter. The screw nut isn't original I don't think. Is it possible to see the reverse but with the screw nut removed? Now is it an original or a fake that is for someone else to say. __________________ A collector from Québec!! Last edited by dannybou; 05-20-2005 at 09:03 PM.

05-20-2005, 09:52 PM	#3
Soviet Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Montréal Age: 42 Posts: 356	Bought it for 0.99$ on eBay. I don't have it yet. I do have larger pictures, but I had to reduce them to 50k. __________________ На Берлин!

05-21-2005, 07:31 AM	#4
dannybou Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Québec, Canada Posts: 284	This is a badge that sells for more than that. But you never know, and you can't beat the price you paid for regardless. When you do receive it, would you let me know the weight and material? __________________ A collector from Québec!!

05-21-2005, 12:39 PM	#5
Soviet Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Montréal Age: 42 Posts: 356	Sure I will. __________________ На Берлин!

05-21-2005, 11:29 PM	#7
Soviet Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Montréal Age: 42 Posts: 356	What is the difference between a restrike & a copie ? __________________ На Берлин!

05-21-2005, 08:22 PM	#6
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Soviet, I've seen those badges before, I believe it should have a round MM on the back and very bright enamel. I was offered those many times as restrikes. Alexei

05-22-2005, 05:28 PM	#8
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Soviet, Well, in numismatics a restrike is an officially authorised copy usually made with the original dies, but since the Russians had never authorised any of those copies, I believe we can safely call them fakes. Alexei

05-22-2005, 07:27 PM	#9
dannybou Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Québec, Canada Posts: 284	Alexei, for the purpose of my education in badges, would restrikes still have the circular mint mark as well? __________________ A collector from Québec!!

05-23-2005, 02:13 PM	#10
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Danny, There is a bunch of restrikes, that have the mintmark, like this fire badge and space wings. As a matter of fact I don't think they differ from their official conterparts in any significant way. The only reason I believe that they are restrikes is because my suppliers tell me so and can offer them in very significant quantities. Well, come to think of it, this fire badge has a very bright enamel, similar to automotive metalic paint. Alexei

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