Fake Badges "Excellent Workers' And Peasants' Red Army". - Page 2

HuliganRS · 11-07-2005, 11:31 AM

This one should be sold as a reproduction.

Rusty.

Alfred · 11-07-2005, 12:09 PM

Here is a comparison of the Excellence in the RKKA badge. On the left is a original and on the right a fake.
Notice the differences in hammer and sickle, the difference in the soldiers head and the thickness of the inscription.

Dolf · 11-07-2005, 01:04 PM

Are both variations (numbered and not numbered reverse) exactly identical on the obverse?
Is there a mirror reverse type or variation or this one is always flat reverse?

Thanks,

Dolf

Alfred · 11-07-2005, 01:59 PM

Hello Dolf

I only know two versions of the badge.
The older one´s are numbered and have a flat reserve (end of 1930´s), the newer one´s have a mirrow reserve and have no numbers (beginnin 1940´s).

regards
Andreas

d-riemer · 11-07-2005, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfred

Here is a comparison of the Excellence in the RKKA badge. On the left is a original and on the right a fake. Notice the differences in hammer and sickle, the difference in the soldiers head and the thickness of the inscription.

Alfred,
here are two genuine looking versions of the early RKKA badge that are different because they were manufactured in different facilities. One of them resembles your fake. Deviations in hammer and sickle, the soldier's head and the thickness of the inscription may not be enough to identify a fake.

HuliganRS · 11-07-2005, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-riemer

Alfred,
here are two genuine looking versions of the early RKKA badge that are different because they were manufactured in different facilities. One of them resembles your fake. Deviations in hammer and sickle, the soldier's head and the thickness of the inscription may not be enough to identify a fake.

Dietrich,

You are correct!

The piece in question is not right.

Rusty.

Nota Bene · 11-08-2005, 01:49 PM

Dietrich,

Both your badges are genuine and are indeed variations. Danny's badge however is a fake - they never used this type of screwpost back in those days. This fake is identical to posts ## 1 and 2 in this thread.

Alexei

dannybou · 01-20-2006, 02:16 PM

Here is a new purchase I made. I've got a 7 days money back on it. In looking over this thread it looks good but I am not sure about the nut. Thanks

Alfred · 01-20-2006, 02:51 PM

The badge and the nut looks okay to me. I ´ve seen the nut on other badges, too.
But let´s wait for other oppinions.

regards
Andreas

dannybou · 01-20-2006, 03:06 PM

Andreas, what is the mint mark on the nut?

11-07-2005, 11:31 AM	#11
HuliganRS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Illinois - U.S.A. Age: 46 Posts: 1,023	This one should be sold as a reproduction. Rusty. __________________ "Be civil to all, sociable to many, familiar with few, friend to one, enemy to none." Benjamin Franklin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member #193

01-20-2006, 03:06 PM	#20
dannybou Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Québec, Canada Posts: 284	Andreas, what is the mint mark on the nut? __________________ A collector from Québec!!

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11-07-2005, 01:04 PM	#13
Dolf Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Age: 68 Posts: 572	Are both variations (numbered and not numbered reverse) exactly identical on the obverse? Is there a mirror reverse type or variation or this one is always flat reverse? Thanks, Dolf

11-08-2005, 01:49 PM	#17
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Dietrich, Both your badges are genuine and are indeed variations. Danny's badge however is a fake - they never used this type of screwpost back in those days. This fake is identical to posts ## 1 and 2 in this thread. Alexei

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