Award Boxes/Cases. - Page 5

Nota Bene · 10-23-2002, 05:49 PM

Ibaya,

I love the FN, but I am even more impressed with the cased Lenin Medal. I have only seen this box once, because the medal was awarded to a relative of mine, but I have never seen it for sale. Wow!

Alexei

Tal Inbar · 10-23-2002, 05:54 PM

I have a box for the Lenin medal, and I got it with some cheap badge (which was not fit exactly...) I thoght that the box is so common I didn't put it in the thread...:o

ibaya · 10-23-2002, 07:19 PM

Yes, the box is quite underwhelming ... made of that miracle petrochemical product, plastic! :) But then again, how many orders, medals and badges were distributed in specifically-molded boxes, as opposed to the generic leatherettes, stock cardboard cartons, or vacuum sealed pouches?

And it only goes to show, one person's seen-gazillions-of-those could be another's first sighting!

Nota Bene · 01-28-2003, 08:16 PM

Boxed Lenin screwback:

slava1stclass · 01-29-2003, 07:49 AM

To all:

In my collection I have a photograph of LTG Mark W. Clark, CG, 5th Army, shaking hands with Red Army Gen-Maj of the Artillery Ivan Sousloparov after having just been awarded the Order of Suvorov 1st Class. The photo is a side shot with Sousloparov on the left and Clark on the right. Clutched in Clark's left hand is a large, square, dark-colored award presentation case for the Suvorov (I can't make out the actual color as the photo is black and white).
As many of you Soviet historians know, Souslaparov later went on to sign the German surrender documents on behalf of the Soviets in Reims, France in May 1945 - without Stalin's knowledge. Stalin was so incensed that he had Sousloparov immediately recalled to Moscow and then demanded a second surrender ceremony in Berlin-Karlshorst at which Zhukov presided. I'm uncertain of Gen-Maj Sousloparov's final fate although I'm sure it didn't include an Order of Lenin.

Regards,

slava1stclass

Tal Inbar · 02-16-2003, 06:17 PM

Hi

It is just a standart Polish case, nothing special about it and of course, it WAS NOT made for this OGPW....

BTW, did you got the order and box from the veteran, or from a seller?

Tal

JensF. · 02-16-2003, 06:32 PM

Thanks. I've got it from a flea-market some years ago.

Dave · 02-17-2003, 02:14 AM

Majorpayne- Looks like an interesting box, perhaps made up by the veteran, or perhaps made up for a ceremony somewhere. Perhaps a Soviet officer, sympathetic to the Polish cause, who awarded the GPW to a Polish officer? Who knows? Have you had it researched? If I saw it for sale at a market, I'd buy it just for the possible story behind it... It might well be worth researching. I think it's kinda cool, even though it's not 'right'.

--Dave

JensF. · 02-17-2003, 05:15 AM

Thanks Dave, I hope to find out more about the research of soviet awards with this forum. I've heard that Mr. Putin closed all russian archives, is this true? Any chance to research some of these orders, I have a few (Red Star, Red Banner, OPW etc.).

Nota Bene · 02-17-2003, 12:53 PM

Major,

It is still possible to have the awards researched. Please check our research section.

Alexei

10-23-2002, 05:54 PM	#2
Tal Inbar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Israel Age: 55 Posts: 2,302	I have a box for the Lenin medal, and I got it with some cheap badge (which was not fit exactly...) I thoght that the box is so common I didn't put it in the thread...:o __________________ Under the banner of Marxism-Leninism, under the leadership of the Communist Party--forward to new victories in the construction of communism! Last edited by Tal Inbar; 10-31-2002 at 01:30 PM.

10-23-2002, 07:19 PM	#3
ibaya Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Maryland, USA Age: 54 Posts: 200	Yes, the box is quite underwhelming ... made of that miracle petrochemical product, plastic! :) But then again, how many orders, medals and badges were distributed in specifically-molded boxes, as opposed to the generic leatherettes, stock cardboard cartons, or vacuum sealed pouches? And it only goes to show, one person's seen-gazillions-of-those could be another's first sighting! Last edited by ibaya; 10-23-2002 at 07:24 PM.

01-29-2003, 07:49 AM	#5
slava1stclass Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 838	Suvorov 1st to LTG Mark W. Clark To all: In my collection I have a photograph of LTG Mark W. Clark, CG, 5th Army, shaking hands with Red Army Gen-Maj of the Artillery Ivan Sousloparov after having just been awarded the Order of Suvorov 1st Class. The photo is a side shot with Sousloparov on the left and Clark on the right. Clutched in Clark's left hand is a large, square, dark-colored award presentation case for the Suvorov (I can't make out the actual color as the photo is black and white). As many of you Soviet historians know, Souslaparov later went on to sign the German surrender documents on behalf of the Soviets in Reims, France in May 1945 - without Stalin's knowledge. Stalin was so incensed that he had Sousloparov immediately recalled to Moscow and then demanded a second surrender ceremony in Berlin-Karlshorst at which Zhukov presided. I'm uncertain of Gen-Maj Sousloparov's final fate although I'm sure it didn't include an Order of Lenin. Regards, slava1stclass Last edited by slava1stclass; 01-29-2003 at 08:40 PM.

02-16-2003, 06:17 PM	#6
Tal Inbar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Israel Age: 55 Posts: 2,302	Hi It is just a standart Polish case, nothing special about it and of course, it WAS NOT made for this OGPW.... BTW, did you got the order and box from the veteran, or from a seller? Tal __________________ Under the banner of Marxism-Leninism, under the leadership of the Communist Party--forward to new victories in the construction of communism!

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10-23-2002, 05:49 PM	#1
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Ibaya, I love the FN, but I am even more impressed with the cased Lenin Medal. I have only seen this box once, because the medal was awarded to a relative of mine, but I have never seen it for sale. Wow! Alexei

02-16-2003, 06:32 PM	#7
JensF. Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 121	Thanks. I've got it from a flea-market some years ago.

02-17-2003, 02:14 AM	#8
Dave Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: California Age: 49 Posts: 700	Majorpayne- Looks like an interesting box, perhaps made up by the veteran, or perhaps made up for a ceremony somewhere. Perhaps a Soviet officer, sympathetic to the Polish cause, who awarded the GPW to a Polish officer? Who knows? Have you had it researched? If I saw it for sale at a market, I'd buy it just for the possible story behind it... It might well be worth researching. I think it's kinda cool, even though it's not 'right'. --Dave

02-17-2003, 05:15 AM	#9
JensF. Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 121	Thanks Dave, I hope to find out more about the research of soviet awards with this forum. I've heard that Mr. Putin closed all russian archives, is this true? Any chance to research some of these orders, I have a few (Red Star, Red Banner, OPW etc.).

02-17-2003, 12:53 PM	#10
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Major, It is still possible to have the awards researched. Please check our research section. Alexei

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