Screwplates

[medals73]

Do we assume that screwplates (when the threading was the same) were eternally "wedded" to a single award? Given the bags of orphaned screwplates I have seen in Ulaanbaatar, I am left wondering how separable they were.

[CtahhR]

The Soviet made screwplates for DPRK awards (which are different to those made for Soviet awards) can be picked up in China by the gross. Not a similar situation for DPRK and Czechoslovak made screwplates which are very seldom offered (and frequently missing from the original award).

[marsino]

These are some of the information from me caught in the network, but it seems to me to understand that they are specific for OGPW.
If someone better than me you would translate it into English.

ОВ = Отечественной войны (OGPW)
КЗ = Красной Звезды (ORS)


"Первый тип - серебро от ОВ с двухступенчатым фланцем на фото №5: ОВ2, примерно, до 300 тыс, ОВ1, примерно, до 120 тыс.

Второй тип - медно-никель с серебрянным двухступенчатым фланцем, на скане №1: на ОВ2, примерно, до 650 тыс, но со взаимным перекрытием типа 3 ОВ1 от 120 тыс до, примерно, 180тыс.

Третий тип - медно-никель (мельхиор) с обычным фланцем на фото №2,3: ОВ2 с, примерно, 650 тыс. до №927тыс., ОВ1 с 180 тыс. по 220 тыс.

Четвертый тип - медноникель с цельноштампованной резьбой фото №4 ОВ1 с №220тыс по 315тыс (еще характерен для поздних выпусков 45 г. КЗ).

И пятый, медноникель (нейзильбер) с цельноштампованным одноступенчатым фланцем на ОВ2 с №928 тыс. и на все выпуски 1985 года, на фото №6."

Плюс, есть такое - гайки под №1 - такие ставили только на ОВ-2 ЛМД, гайка под №4 - только КЗ.

[EricFG]

I get two translations:
""The first type - silver from ОВ with a two-level flange on a photo №5: ОВ2, approximately, to 300 тыс, ОВ1, approximately, to 120 thousand

The second type - medno-nickel with серебрянным a two-level flange, on скане №1: on ОВ2, approximately, to 650 тыс, but with mutual overlapping of type 3 ОВ1 from 120 тыс to, approximately, 180тыс.

The third type - medno-nickel (cupronickel) with a usual flange on a photo №2,3: ОВ2 about 650 thousand to №927тыс., ОВ1 from 180 thousand on 220 thousand

The fourth type - медноникель with цельноштампованной a carving of a photo №4 ОВ1 with №220тыс on 315тыс (it is still characteristic for late releases of 45 КЗ).

And the fifth, медноникель (German silver) with цельноштампованным an one-stage flange on ОВ2 from ³928 thousand and on all releases of 1985, on a photo №6."

Plus, is such - nuts under №1 - such put only on OV-2 ЛМД, a nut under №4 - only КЗ."
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"The first type - silver from agents with two-flange on the photo number 5: OB2, approximately 300 thousand, OB1, approximately 120 thousand

The second type - copper-nickel-silver two-step flange on the scan number 1: OB2 to approximately 650 thousand, but with overlap of type 3 OB1 from 120 thousand to about 180tys.

The third type - copper-nickel (cupro-nickel) with a conventional flange on the photo № 2,3: OB2 with approximately 650 thousand to № 927tys., OB1 from 180 thousand to 220 thousand

The fourth type - from a single piece threaded mednonikel photo № № 4 OB1 with 220tys on 315tys (another characteristic of the later editions '45 CC).

And fifth, mednonikel (nickel silver) with a single-stage single piece flange on OB2 number with 928 thousand and all issues in 1985, the photo number 6. "

Plus, there is - the nuts under the number 1 - are placed only on the RH-2 LMD, the nut under the number 4 - only fault."

Neither of which make much sense.

[CtahhR]

For OB1 and OB2 read OPWI and OPWII.

[EricFG]

Originally Posted by medals73

Do we assume that screwplates (when the threading was the same) were eternally "wedded" to a single award?

We certainly hope they were. I put them in the same catagory as five-sided suspensions; when we get, let us say, a Defense of Stalingrad medal we are, or should be much happier when we find it comes with a two-piece steel suspension as opposed to the generic aluminium suspension with their obligitory new ribbons. To me a new suspension and ribbon is incongruous when attached to an original medal. Same with screwplates. Two-piece suspensions are easy to see; variations of screwplates have not been looked at in any depth. Yet.

Given the bags of orphaned screwplates I have seen in Ulaanbaatar, I am left wondering how separable they were.

Yeah, I know, I see them on ebay as well. Gives me a chill when I see them. One part of me says they are just manufacuter's overruns. The other part thinks that too many orders have been scrapped for silver and gold content and all that remains are the screwplates. :(

[Lapa]

Originally Posted by EricFG

...Yeah, I know, I see them on ebay as well. Gives me a chill when I see them. One part of me says they are just manufacuter's overruns. The other part thinks that too many orders have been scrapped for silver and gold content and all that remains are the screwplates. :(

Eric,

I am afraid that only your second assumption is true :(

Marc

[marsino]

It would be very useful for other users add new information, I am unfortunately, I have some RS with screwback of Nickel Silver :(, and i would like to replace without any mistakes.