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Old 02-28-2014, 09:29 AM   #1
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Ushakov,04534,Senior Sailor,Separate Brigade Of Patrol Ships Of Border Troops

Hi gentlemen,
these days I took this Medal, because even if very worn, and with the almost hidden by serial number 4534 in 1534, looking good it seemed genuine, and the price was really a small thing.
Your opinion I would be appreciated, and ask me additional photos.
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Old 02-28-2014, 11:58 AM   #2
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Re: Fake Ushakov Medals

With my usual disclaimer about not authenticating from photos I can say that the medal looks good. I believe the serial number is 4534. Could be a good candidate for research.

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Old 02-28-2014, 12:19 PM   #3
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Re: Fake Ushakov Medals

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With my usual disclaimer about not authenticating from photos I can say that the medal looks good. I believe the serial number is 4534. Could be a good candidate for research.

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Thanks Alexei, is very nice to receive your comment. :):):)

From the book of cavaliers of Ushiakov I found his name:

Медалью Ушакова № 4534 награжден старший краснофлотец Чемоданов Евгений Васильевич.
Приказ Командира Отдельной бригады сторожевых кораблей Черноморскоко флота № 1с от 17.08.1944.


That has allowed me to find the citation on PN.

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Old 02-28-2014, 12:27 PM   #4
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The suspension is very well built, but the chain does not seem the right one...
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Old 02-28-2014, 12:41 PM   #5
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I tend to think that the suspension is not genuine, but I would need to examine it personally. the chain also looks like a replacement.

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Old 02-28-2014, 12:58 PM   #6
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Re: Fake Ushakov Medals

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Thanks for the additional pictures. Yup, the chain also looks like a replacement.

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I agree with you :thumbsup, but perhaps this section of chain may be the only native, because he is the only one that presents the classic metal streaks.
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Old 02-28-2014, 02:36 PM   #7
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Re: Fake Ushakov Medals

I am sorry, I can't tell for sure from photos. BTW, I have seen chains made with genuine flat links and replacement round links, so anything is possible.

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Re: Ushakov,04534,Senior Sailor,Separate Brigade Of Patrol Ships Of Border Troops

Now I am confused, why are you posting four scans of the obverse? :confused:

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Re: Ushakov,04534,Senior Sailor,Separate Brigade Of Patrol Ships Of Border Troops

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Now I am confused, why are you posting four scans of the obverse? :confused:

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Are four, because the first two are done with CCD scanner, with different light angle, end the other two with CIS scanner with light opposite angle.

The reverse scans have been bad ...
And as soon as they are good I will post.

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