Imperial Kolodkas.

EricFG · 11-24-2007, 05:51 PM

Found these images on the web while searching for a St.George medal.
You can plainly see from where the Soviets modeled their suspensions.
The double may or may not be authentic although the design is what I'm trying to illustrate.
I thought there was a thread elsewhere on the forum about Soviet suspensions but I couldn't find it.
Anyway.....

Nota Bene · 11-24-2007, 06:16 PM

Eric,

I am not sure about the double suspension, but I believe the first one is a fake.

Alexei

EricFG · 11-24-2007, 06:23 PM

The suspension &/or the medal?
I was just trying to illustrate what Imperial suspensions looked like as there are so few out there to be seen.

Nota Bene · 11-26-2007, 08:06 PM

Eric,

No, I was talking only about the suspension.

Alexei

Jeffrey Meffert · 11-27-2007, 12:46 AM

I can't swear to authenticity, though. The ribbons are reversed in direction although a previous discussion resulted in photos of generals and admirals in their VP uniforms with a mix of ribbon directions. The third view shows comparison to soviet OG showing the ribbons are actually a little wider and it's more of a black and orange than black and yellow.

Lapa · 12-22-2007, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffrey Meffert

I can't swear to authenticity, though. The ribbons are reversed in direction although a previous discussion resulted in photos of generals and admirals in their VP uniforms with a mix of ribbon directions. The third view shows comparison to soviet OG showing the ribbons are actually a little wider and it's more of a black and orange than black and yellow.

Jeffrey,

That multiple suspension is a later Soviet manufacture.

Marc

Nota Bene · 12-22-2007, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffrey Meffert

I can't swear to authenticity, though. The ribbons are reversed in direction although a previous discussion resulted in photos of generals and admirals in their VP uniforms with a mix of ribbon directions. The third view shows comparison to soviet OG showing the ribbons are actually a little wider and it's more of a black and orange than black and yellow.

Jeff,

That's still a Soviet suspension.

OK,

The forum seems to be back to normal.

Unfortunately, the scan is quite small. Awards are original and so are the suspensions; ribbons are repros and the group is put together.

Alexei

EricFG · 12-23-2007, 04:20 PM

Wow! Tha's some grouping! I notice the makers marke on both suspensions. Very cool. Thanks for sharing.

Nota Bene · 12-27-2007, 05:57 PM

Eric,

I should have a better scans showing that mark. Will try to find it.

Alexei

Jeffrey Meffert · 12-27-2007, 07:12 PM

Makes sense now that there are pictures of proper imperial suspensions. That's why ribbons are too big for the suspension I guess. Hopefully not fake medals too but anything is possible...if not likely.
I also like the hallmark stamps on the real imperial suspensions. Way cool

11-24-2007, 06:23 PM	#3
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 60 Posts: 1,497	The suspension &/or the medal? I was just trying to illustrate what Imperial suspensions looked like as there are so few out there to be seen. __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

12-23-2007, 04:20 PM	#8
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 60 Posts: 1,497	Wow! Tha's some grouping! I notice the makers marke on both suspensions. Very cool. Thanks for sharing. __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

12-27-2007, 07:12 PM	#10
Jeffrey Meffert Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas, USA Age: 68 Posts: 640	Soviet suspension with imperial medals. Makes sense now that there are pictures of proper imperial suspensions. That's why ribbons are too big for the suspension I guess. Hopefully not fake medals too but anything is possible...if not likely. I also like the hallmark stamps on the real imperial suspensions. Way cool

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11-24-2007, 06:16 PM	#2
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Eric, I am not sure about the double suspension, but I believe the first one is a fake. Alexei

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Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Eric, No, I was talking only about the suspension. Alexei

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Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Eric, I should have a better scans showing that mark. Will try to find it. Alexei

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