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Old 07-11-2006, 03:30 PM   #11
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The ribbons are not badly mounted; some are 'reverse' mounted. I have photos of some Soviet generals in M1945 uniforms doing this ( though i do not know if Isakov did so). -DD
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Old 07-11-2006, 05:42 PM   #12
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The ribbons are not badly mounted; some are 'reverse' mounted. I have photos of some Soviet generals in M1945 uniforms doing this ( though i do not know if Isakov did so). -DD
Yes, I think I am responsible for mistake with them. I have bad pains often in my hands and have difficulty with detail work like such, so my son helps me, but he does not give to me full attention at times.

However, Doug, I have seen this too on occasion when viewing photos of many PKKA men with many orders. Especially after war when long bars were more common adornment than individual medals put close with eachother.

I will add some more photos to the forum later of some things as per gentlemen's request to create some more interesting conversation.

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Old 07-11-2006, 06:43 PM   #13
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I have seen this too on occasion when viewing photos of many PKKA men with many orders.
I've seen this too, especially on the 1950s uniforms, but I've never seen ribbons facing different ways on parade uniforms. I think they need to be redone. Still, what a great uniform!

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Old 07-13-2006, 10:14 AM   #14
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Isakov

Here is a photo of Admiral of the Fleet Isakov wearing the four star rank in 1944; Kuznetsov also wore this rank, so seeing Isakov in it does not mean alot. I still really would like to see a photo of Isakov wearing the "naval marshal" insignia during the war years as it would really set it in stone.

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Old 07-13-2006, 10:21 AM   #15
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I love to get them in the same room at the same time! Here is Kuznetsov; medals and orders are copies, but proper.I get to 'visit' this uniform again this saturday : )

Here are detailed shots of the colalr and cuffs of the Kuznetsov uniform; as i said, would love to do a hands on with this uniform and Isakov!

Last year the Russian Embassy invited my friend to display some uniforms for victory day celebrations...here is Kuznetsov and Voroshilov.DD
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Old 07-13-2006, 10:36 AM   #16
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Here is an example of what I would like to see; this is a photo of Kuznetsov in his M1945 uniform.

another photo of him in this uniform. another advanced collector brought up the idea that when Kuznetsov was demoted in 1948 (while this style of uniform was still being used) Isakov was given the rank and uniform; he would only have worn it for a very short period before it was phased out; it would explain the lack of photos of Isakov in the M1945 uniform, while 'allowing' him to have it.

Thoughts?

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It's amazing what you can sometimes find on the Russian Internet. Here's the Order of Ushakov 1st class #6, that belonged to Admiral Isakov.

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Old 07-13-2006, 08:22 PM   #18
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Portrait by Kopeiko...

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Old 07-21-2006, 10:45 AM   #19
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Just to get back to the medal ribbons; at times generals / admirals and did mix 'regular' ribbons as well as the 'reverse'. Its not common, but did happen. -DD
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Just to get back to the medal ribbons; at times generals / admirals and did mix 'regular' ribbons as well as the 'reverse'. Its not common, but did happen. -DD
It would take real gumption to lecture a general/admiral about regulation uniform and decoration wear :D
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