Medal "For Bravery". - Page 7

Alfred · 08-24-2007, 07:29 AM

Maybe for fighting around Berlin ?

Let´s hope it is a good citation. Maybe awarded to comrade Schugaschwilli. Looking forward to read the citation.

regards
Andreas

bertastan · 11-26-2007, 01:09 PM

Hi
Just got this medal. Is it normal for the red color in the inscription on the front to be missing?
Thanks
Stan

***desantnik*** · 11-26-2007, 01:26 PM

Yes, it frequently happened.

EricFG · 11-26-2007, 04:12 PM

Yes, and there's a certain time period where it happened more frequently, at least that's what I'm lead to believe.
I was told at one point in the war the supplies of enamel weren't available for the medal (and the CS medal as well I think) so the powers that be used a laquer-type substance. Over time the laquer's proved less durable.
I'm not sure how accurate that story is but it seems to jibe with some examples I've seen.
:D

Ruiz · 12-18-2007, 04:38 PM

This is the numeration of the medal of valour:

13.811 07.03.1940
96.695 01.02.1943------------Is Correct this numeration?
112.814 07.12.1942
159.218 22.02.1943
198.463 18.02.1943
246.667 23.04.1943
327.525 20.07.1943
347.049 01.09.1943
745.775 05.02.1944
746.222 01.02.1944
1.030.518 03.03.1944
1.044.724 17.07.1944
1.268.544 30.03.1944
1.351.396 26.08.1944
1.363.366 02.10.1944
1.530.440 20.12.1944
1.577.386 22.08.1944
1.624.206 30.09.1944
1.659.548 13.08.1944
1.687.818 31.08.1944
1.687.854 10.11.1944
1.697.816 07.09.1944
1.961.373 15.02.1945
2.370.720 12.01.1945
2.452.683 22.02.1945
2.454.862 09.05.1945
2.473.161 23.05.1945
2.602.999 01.06.1945
2.821.213 17.06.1945
3.105.573 26.05.1945
3.220.514 24.05.1945

EricFG · 12-18-2007, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruiz

This is the numeration of the medal of valour:

13.811 07.03.1940
96.695 01.02.1943------------Is Correct this numeration?

Considering the source, yes, it is.
If you are concerned about the dates it's due to the fact that Armys, or "Fronts" got awards in batches and one Army with a higher number awarded their BM before the other Army with the lower number.

Ruiz · 12-18-2007, 06:12 PM

Manufactured medals were distributed to several armies and, depending on how many men were more likely to spread or less before?

Regards.

EricFG · 12-19-2007, 06:30 AM

I'm not sure I understand the question, could you re-phrase it please? :)

Ruiz · 12-19-2007, 07:02 AM

Sorry Eric, it´s my bad english.

The medals were manufactured and then distributed already numbered.
A medal with number 30.000, for example,Could be given a year later to be manufactured.
Regards.

Lapa · 12-19-2007, 07:17 AM

Ruiz,

You are right. The mint made a whole lot of medals at one time, which were then split up and sent to the various fronts. It means that a medal could be awarded even several years after it was manufactured; it also means that some fronts which received higher serial numbered medals would issue them sometimes before some lower-numbered medals sent to other fronts.
In other terms, the serial number is an indication only of the period of award. The only concrete proof of awarding date is that in the official document.

Marc

11-26-2007, 04:12 PM	#64
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Yes, and there's a certain time period where it happened more frequently, at least that's what I'm lead to believe. I was told at one point in the war the supplies of enamel weren't available for the medal (and the CS medal as well I think) so the powers that be used a laquer-type substance. Over time the laquer's proved less durable. I'm not sure how accurate that story is but it seems to jibe with some examples I've seen. :D __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

12-18-2007, 04:38 PM	#65
Ruiz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spain Age: 50 Posts: 218	Another question This is the numeration of the medal of valour: 13.811 07.03.1940 96.695 01.02.1943------------Is Correct this numeration? 112.814 07.12.1942 159.218 22.02.1943 198.463 18.02.1943 246.667 23.04.1943 327.525 20.07.1943 347.049 01.09.1943 745.775 05.02.1944 746.222 01.02.1944 1.030.518 03.03.1944 1.044.724 17.07.1944 1.268.544 30.03.1944 1.351.396 26.08.1944 1.363.366 02.10.1944 1.530.440 20.12.1944 1.577.386 22.08.1944 1.624.206 30.09.1944 1.659.548 13.08.1944 1.687.818 31.08.1944 1.687.854 10.11.1944 1.697.816 07.09.1944 1.961.373 15.02.1945 2.370.720 12.01.1945 2.452.683 22.02.1945 2.454.862 09.05.1945 2.473.161 23.05.1945 2.602.999 01.06.1945 2.821.213 17.06.1945 3.105.573 26.05.1945 3.220.514 24.05.1945 __________________ Only he is lost who gives himself up for lost.

12-18-2007, 06:12 PM	#67
Ruiz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spain Age: 50 Posts: 218	Manufactured medals were distributed to several armies and, depending on how many men were more likely to spread or less before? Regards. __________________ Only he is lost who gives himself up for lost.

12-19-2007, 06:30 AM	#68
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	I'm not sure I understand the question, could you re-phrase it please? :) __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

12-19-2007, 07:02 AM	#69
Ruiz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spain Age: 50 Posts: 218	Sorry Eric, it´s my bad english. The medals were manufactured and then distributed already numbered. A medal with number 30.000, for example,Could be given a year later to be manufactured. Regards. __________________ Only he is lost who gives himself up for lost.

08-24-2007, 07:29 AM	#61
Alfred Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany, Cologne Posts: 626	Maybe for fighting around Berlin ? Let´s hope it is a good citation. Maybe awarded to comrade Schugaschwilli. Looking forward to read the citation. regards Andreas

11-26-2007, 01:26 PM	#63
*desantnik* Forum Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eurasia Posts: 2,338	Yes, it frequently happened.

12-19-2007, 07:17 AM	#70
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Ruiz, You are right. The mint made a whole lot of medals at one time, which were then split up and sent to the various fronts. It means that a medal could be awarded even several years after it was manufactured; it also means that some fronts which received higher serial numbered medals would issue them sometimes before some lower-numbered medals sent to other fronts. In other terms, the serial number is an indication only of the period of award. The only concrete proof of awarding date is that in the official document. Marc

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