Fantasy Piece

Chris · 11-02-2002, 11:53 AM

Any body recognise this. I think its a fantasy piece.

Chris

Nota Bene · 11-02-2002, 05:10 PM

Chris,

It's not a fantasy piece, but a copy of one of those OGPU award badge, that were given in the early 1930s. Most of them were destroyed in 1933 and exchanged for standard Government awards. I believe there were 3-4 different types of these badges. All are extremely rare. The one pictured is of course a fake.

Alexei

Chris · 11-03-2002, 03:14 AM

Thanks Alexei.

I have been offered this but declined. It is going for 750 dollars.

He has two, one he is keeping for his collection, he got this off of a collector in Moscow who had been collecting for 45 years etc...close friend of Zhukov use to drop in for a chit chat with Stalin.......

Chris

otlichnik · 11-04-2002, 09:38 AM

Chris,

Say, I think I have deal with that same guy .... ;)

Alexei,

The Kutsenko and Rudichenko book shows about three of the badges and this is a different design. I wonder how many there were all told? Any idea who issued them?? Was it the actual OGPU or a regional office or a personal jeweller made item??

Shawn

Nota Bene · 11-04-2002, 01:06 PM

Shawn,

I really don't know. This area of early Soviet badges still awaits it's researcher. I understand that the general practice was that an organisation wishing to award it's employes would order a bunch of those badges designed and made from a jeweller or a factory.

Interestingly the "Blue book" shows the same badge, but without the center piece.

Alexei

11-03-2002, 03:14 AM	#3
Chris Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 188	Cheers Thanks Alexei. I have been offered this but declined. It is going for 750 dollars. He has two, one he is keeping for his collection, he got this off of a collector in Moscow who had been collecting for 45 years etc...close friend of Zhukov use to drop in for a chit chat with Stalin....... Chris

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11-02-2002, 05:10 PM	#2
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Chris, It's not a fantasy piece, but a copy of one of those OGPU award badge, that were given in the early 1930s. Most of them were destroyed in 1933 and exchanged for standard Government awards. I believe there were 3-4 different types of these badges. All are extremely rare. The one pictured is of course a fake. Alexei

11-04-2002, 09:38 AM	#4
otlichnik Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Age: 57 Posts: 547	Chris, Say, I think I have deal with that same guy .... ;) Alexei, The Kutsenko and Rudichenko book shows about three of the badges and this is a different design. I wonder how many there were all told? Any idea who issued them?? Was it the actual OGPU or a regional office or a personal jeweller made item?? Shawn

11-04-2002, 01:06 PM	#5
Nota Bene Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York USA Posts: 2,296	Shawn, I really don't know. This area of early Soviet badges still awaits it's researcher. I understand that the general practice was that an organisation wishing to award it's employes would order a bunch of those badges designed and made from a jeweller or a factory. Interestingly the "Blue book" shows the same badge, but without the center piece. Alexei

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