People's Commissariat Of The Lines Of Communication Belt Buckle

***CtahhR*** · 04-04-2011, 07:38 PM

Does anyone out there know just what and when this belt buckle was? It was thrown in a lot of items I bought a few years ago and I've just put it in a drawer since I had it and today I came across it and It'd be nice to have some more information on it - other than it's old, crudely made and heavy. Sorry about the poor picture but my scanner prefers 2D pictures and I don't have a camera. Thanking you in advance.

Jeffrey Meffert · 04-05-2011, 12:50 AM

It's an engineering corps device. Perhaps someone took a leftover collar tab or epaulet device and grafted it onto a belt buckle. Interesting "trench art" sort of thing

Al-muell · 04-05-2011, 01:00 AM

Wouldn't it be railway? They also used this symbol and they probably had some belt buckles, at least in Stalin's era.

RichieC · 04-05-2011, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Al-muell

Wouldn't it be railway? They also used this symbol and they probably had some belt buckles, at least in Stalin's era.

I would say that also...

***CtahhR*** · 04-05-2011, 08:32 PM

If I had to hazard a guess on it's age it is DEFINITELY pre-GPW probably the mid-late 20's. It is very heavy duty and has had a good share of honest wear on it. The spanner and hammer on the front are bigger and more heavy duty than collar tabs and are very firmly attached.

Will · 04-06-2011, 09:07 AM

My first thought was Railway as well.
The crossed hammer and wrench as a Railways symbol went back to Tsarist times and was continued under the Soviet regime.

EricFG · 04-05-2011, 04:19 AM

Pretty large for a collar tab, isn't it? I mean, those Soviet buckles can be pretty large.
What's the back look like?

***CtahhR*** · 04-05-2011, 04:57 AM

Here is the back of a different buckle I found on the internet (since I don't have a camera) that has the same sort of back (except the buckle in question is flat). I also found a picture of this similar buckle on a site claiming to be offering relics of Stalingrad for free.

RichieC · 04-06-2011, 09:52 PM

Kindly show an image of the reverse...

***CtahhR*** · 04-07-2011, 10:06 AM

Here's the reverse. A very poor picture but as I've said no camera and scanner likes 2D. No maker marks etc.... The bar is not rusty (as it doesn't seem ferrous) just dirty.

If someone wants to buy me a camera I'd be able to take oceans of photos.

04-05-2011, 12:50 AM	#2
Jeffrey Meffert Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas, USA Age: 68 Posts: 640	Re: Unknown Belt Buckle It's an engineering corps device. Perhaps someone took a leftover collar tab or epaulet device and grafted it onto a belt buckle. Interesting "trench art" sort of thing

04-05-2011, 01:00 AM	#3
Al-muell Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wrocław, Poland Posts: 1,828	Re: Unknown Belt Buckle Wouldn't it be railway? They also used this symbol and they probably had some belt buckles, at least in Stalin's era.

04-05-2011, 08:32 PM	#5
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Unknown Belt Buckle If I had to hazard a guess on it's age it is DEFINITELY pre-GPW probably the mid-late 20's. It is very heavy duty and has had a good share of honest wear on it. The spanner and hammer on the front are bigger and more heavy duty than collar tabs and are very firmly attached.

04-06-2011, 09:07 AM	#6
Will Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 236	Re: Unknown Belt Buckle My first thought was Railway as well. The crossed hammer and wrench as a Railways symbol went back to Tsarist times and was continued under the Soviet regime.

04-05-2011, 04:19 AM	#7
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Re: Unknown Belt Buckle Pretty large for a collar tab, isn't it? I mean, those Soviet buckles can be pretty large. What's the back look like? __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

04-06-2011, 09:52 PM	#9
RichieC Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: United States Of America Age: 58 Posts: 223	Re: Unknown Belt Buckle Kindly show an image of the reverse...

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