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08-30-2008, 06:12 PM | #1 |
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Re: Mutilated History
Bogdan,
I suppose anything is possible. Still, what a disrespect to the Hero, who deserved this award! Alexei |
08-30-2008, 10:20 PM | #2 |
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Re: Mutilated History
Just over a year ago, I watched someone in a Tashkent bazaar put maybe 50+ Maternal Glories (all three classes) and OPW'85's on a scale to weigh, buy, and melt down for lower-grade silver. That, even now, is not an unusual sight (albeit the numbers of awards are dwindling). I've got a big bag of suspensions that still have the VL and DL ribbons on them because some dude in the Ferghana Valley had ripped them off the medals, and then sold the medals by weight for melting. Another time I went to buy a couple wartime BM's from a guy (we had pre-arranged to meet). When I got there, he had half as many as he had promised. It turns out that the day before he had sold three of them to a local jeweler at the melting price (lower than I was going to give him). I asked him why he did it. He said "it doesn't matter to me who gets them, I just wanted the money." I've got a couple MH's floating around the house missing their gold stars, long since removed for the tooth caps Alexei speaks of above (and judging from the number of gold teeth I've seen, a lot of awards went the way of the dentist). As you roam the former SU away outside of places like Kiev, Moscow, and St.P. (especially in some of the other republics), things are not so prosperous, people are not so well off, and (in some cases) history is being rewritten or even slowly erased.
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08-31-2008, 06:48 PM | #3 |
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Re: Mutilated History
Kirchgoens,
What can I say, buy as many of those awards as you can and sell them here on the forum. You will be saving them from destruction and making money in the process. :) Alexei |
09-01-2008, 12:16 AM | #4 |
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Saved orphans...
I did nab up some of those to-be-melted awards, so I've got spares sitting around the house, especially the three MG orders, the Mother medals, and also un-numbered BM's, CSM's, VL's, and DL's. I couldn't buy them all. :( I think I have a couple early MG versions too, but often missing the mirror-back suspension. I've also got a couple MH's without the gold star if someone is looking for a relatively cheap way to fill a hole in the collection. I've also got a couple spares of the MH doc's (both sizes, sometimes in matched pairs). Every so often I also have spare boxes for MH (blue) or regular (red) awards if someone needs such a thing.
If someone wants something in particular, I'll see if I can find it. I'm pretty sure I can often find it for less than many of the online guys. I don't often post stuff for sale because I usually don't have time to break out the camera and do the Photoshop work to make the images look good. Since it's only a hobby, I've got to go to work and pay the bills first. ;) But... hunting for the stuff (medals, orders, labor banners, statues, docs, books, etc) is fun for me, so let me know what you want out there and I'll see what I can do. I've got a ton of military stuff now, but I'd like to get much of it researched first. Then I'll start letting it go after I pick my favorite stories. :) It's taking forever to get docs back from the G-researcher man though. :( I've got so much to research that I really need to find a discounted way of doing it. |
09-17-2008, 12:38 PM | #5 | |
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Re: Mutilated History
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I do fully agree with you and feel that this piece deserves as honorable treatment as the Hero who was decorated with it. It just bothers me that a thinking person would do this so I would rather believe that this was a person who was either out of their mind (no disrespect to anyone intended) or incapable of knowing that this piece deserves more than being mutilated like this. I guess to me, a thinking person doing this to this award is the same as doing this to the Hero who earned it. |
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09-17-2008, 03:12 PM | #6 |
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Re: Mutilated History
Guys,
I agree on the principle of this, but don't forget that we are philosophizing on full stomachs. When dire necessity arise, you don't always have a choice. Marc |
09-17-2008, 05:01 PM | #7 |
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Re: Mutilated History
Marc,
I suppose it's possible, but if I were a starving person, needing money right away, I would most likely just sell the medal. I guess it just pains me to see this. Alexei |
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