Fake Submariner Badges

Shocktrooper · 06-26-2008, 12:44 AM

Hello everybody,

a friend of mine has brought along this nice submarine badge.

I`d like to know, if it is a real badge for crew members of the (I think) Oscar II - class submarine "Orel", or if it`s just one of these cheap tourist souvenir things.

Thanks a lot for your assistance.

Jens*

Esteban_cool · 06-30-2008, 12:01 AM

Well, if it´s a "tourist pin" It´s a very well manufactured one.
Usually, those tourist pins are poor in materials (paint and aluminium, sometimes brass) and detail.

This one looks pretty nice, with real enamel(at least looks like it), multi-piece construction and good level. It makes a good overall impression; I love the water effect! :)

Tretov · 06-30-2008, 02:41 AM

Without being able to tell any further on the whereabouts of this particular badge, there are a LOT of similar submarine badges with separate nameplate available in the baltic states.

ANZAC · 06-30-2008, 03:36 AM

I have a sililar one for the 'KURSK'. I paid about $15 if I remember correctly. Cheap, light weight materials. Non authentic and made for tourists. It looks attractive but cheaply made. My 4 year old broke a piece of the front off with not to much effort;)

But it is nice and shiny for a play thing:D

Brendan

EricFG · 06-30-2008, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANZAC

I have a sililar one for the 'KURSK'. I paid about $15 if I remember correctly. Cheap, light weight materials. Non authentic and made for tourists. It looks attractive but cheaply made. My 4 year old broke a piece of the front off with not to much effort;) But it is nice and shiny for a play thing:D Brendan

Ah yes, weaning 'em young. Good plan mate! :)
He'll be able to detect a fake by the time he's 8. :D

Shocktrooper · 07-02-2008, 10:49 AM

Hi,

for it`s size it is quite heavy, the enamel is hot baked and the pieces are put together very carefully; so nothing concerning the material and craftmanship tells me that it might be a fake... Has anyone some sort of proof, if it is a fake or the real deal ?

Thank you guys,

Jens*

Bubniy · 03-20-2009, 08:03 AM

For example souvenir soviet badges on eBayю Specially, watch back side for originality

Esteban_cool · 03-20-2009, 04:20 PM

Bubniy, are the ones you are showing original or fake?

Lapa · 03-20-2009, 06:15 PM

Esteban,

:thumbsdown

Marc

Esteban_cool · 03-20-2009, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lapa

Esteban,

:thumbsdown

Marc

I see, Merci.

It would be useful to compare an original to a fake in details so me and other unexperienced collectors could know what to buy. I guess the badges Bubniy shows should have hot enamel isntead of cold. Am I right?

06-30-2008, 12:01 AM	#2
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	Re: Unknown Submarine Badge Well, if it´s a "tourist pin" It´s a very well manufactured one. Usually, those tourist pins are poor in materials (paint and aluminium, sometimes brass) and detail. This one looks pretty nice, with real enamel(at least looks like it), multi-piece construction and good level. It makes a good overall impression; I love the water effect! :) __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

06-30-2008, 02:41 AM	#3
Tretov Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Republic of Finland Posts: 1,129	Re: Unknown Submarine Badge Without being able to tell any further on the whereabouts of this particular badge, there are a LOT of similar submarine badges with separate nameplate available in the baltic states.

06-30-2008, 03:36 AM	#4
ANZAC Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Age: 59 Posts: 343	Re: Unknown Submarine Badge I have a sililar one for the 'KURSK'. I paid about $15 if I remember correctly. Cheap, light weight materials. Non authentic and made for tourists. It looks attractive but cheaply made. My 4 year old broke a piece of the front off with not to much effort;) But it is nice and shiny for a play thing:D Brendan __________________ "If we come to a minefield, our infantry attacks exactly as it were not there." Marshall Geogi Zhukov to General Eisenhower, 1945

07-02-2008, 10:49 AM	#6
Shocktrooper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 105	Re: Unknown Submarine Badge Hi, for it`s size it is quite heavy, the enamel is hot baked and the pieces are put together very carefully; so nothing concerning the material and craftmanship tells me that it might be a fake... Has anyone some sort of proof, if it is a fake or the real deal ? Thank you guys, Jens* Last edited by Shocktrooper; 07-02-2008 at 10:52 AM.

03-20-2009, 04:20 PM	#8
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	Re: Submarine Badge Bubniy, are the ones you are showing original or fake? __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

03-20-2009, 06:15 PM	#9
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: Submarine Badge Esteban, :thumbsdown Marc

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