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Old 09-29-2006, 03:44 PM   #11
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ok i can see the differences of the lenin quite well
thanks to everybody

I am learning so i ask why do you think that Nevsky is a fake too
what is off ?? i cannnot understand lloking at other pictures of ral orders
somebody can tell me where exactly to look ??

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The most striking reason of why this piece looks fake is the lack of detail. The original Nesky was coined, this piece looks cast. Take a look at your award and a real Nevsky (look very closely, compare EVERY detail) you will notice that yours lacks the crisp line definition and detail that an original has. There are plenty of pictures of an original order of Nevsky on this forum.

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Old 10-12-2006, 06:23 AM   #12
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new proposal...

instead of the ones recognized as fakes, the local collector offer me those two order only one with document
here are the picture of nevsky with doc, but less older and on the other posts the picture of a lenin newer without doc and an older nevsky also without doc...
I will wait for your evaluation to say something about those....
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Old 10-12-2006, 06:26 AM   #13
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next order of nevsky

here are other pictures...
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Old 10-12-2006, 06:29 AM   #14
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the lenin one

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Old 10-12-2006, 07:30 AM   #15
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here are other pictures...
Marco,

You need to post significantly BETTER scans of these orders if you want a reliable answer :mad:
Apart from a strange color which may be due to the scans themselves, the Lenin seems to be OK.

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