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11-03-2012, 01:42 PM | #1 |
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Fake Medal Bars.
How does this medal bar look, gentlemen? Put-together, or authentic? Thanks for your help!
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11-03-2012, 02:25 PM | #2 |
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Re: Medal bar
the Lenin doesn't fit... NEVER saw a Lenin's birth in a medal bar!
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11-03-2012, 04:11 PM | #3 |
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Re: Medal bar
It's "period correct" but the creases on the ribbons inform me that the ribbons were removed from pentagonal suspensions and put on this suspension. Sometimes the owners did it themselves, but if go to Voentorg to buy an aluminum suspension, why not buy new ribbons themselves? I'm less concerned about the Lenin though, it was against regulations to put it on a ribbon bar but not uncommon to do so.
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11-03-2012, 04:18 PM | #4 |
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Re: Medal bar
Plausible enough (I guess), non-regulation, but without documents you'll never know.
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11-03-2012, 04:30 PM | #5 |
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Re: Medal bar
It's a plausible combination of awards, the wear of the ribbons is consistent, it's plausible that the creases in the ribbons are due to the switch from single suspension to multi-slot bar, and the Lenin centenary medal was quite often put on a five-sided suspension or medal bar. It's all plausible, but just an opinion. :thumbsup
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11-03-2012, 05:33 PM | #6 |
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Re: Medal bar
about the lenin commemorative, I'm still waiting for photographic eveidences if it is so uncommon... My guess: at best, this bar is a gathering of an incomplete or spli group of medals.
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11-03-2012, 08:09 PM | #7 | |
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Re: Medal bar
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IMO doubtful a vet did that. More likely a recent job and worth very little more than just the sum of the parts. Still, she ain't half bad looking. :D
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11-03-2012, 09:41 PM | #8 |
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Re: Medal bar
We are not playing the plausibility game again are we?
Someone will want paying.
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11-04-2012, 01:24 AM | #9 |
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Re: Medal bar
Sadely, most of these medal bars are put together. I know two person on ebay wich buy seperate medals and change them to a medal bar and sell the bar with profit.
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11-03-2012, 05:52 PM | #10 |
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Re: Medal bar
Bad quality but here's two.
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