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06-13-2005, 10:47 PM | #1 |
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Lenin Red Banner
This one is for sale now on E... (£99/£110), looks very nice!
Opinions? Seller says: "HAND SEWN VELVET Red banner of LENIN to the winner of ALL-UNION SOCIALISTIC COMPETITION" The condition of the banner is NEW! The banner was made before 1970 on the order of Soviet government, high quality, hand sewn. Sign on the banner: "Under the Banner of Marxism-Leninism Under the Management of Communist Party - Ahead to the Victory of Communism!" Sign on the other side:"Ministry of Finances of USSR, the Central Committee of Trade Union of Workers of Official Workers" "To the winner of ALL-UNION SOCIALISTIC COMPETITION" The dimensions are 170x130 cm or about 5 feet 6 inches X 4 feet 2 inches. Dolf |
06-14-2005, 02:39 AM | #2 |
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Dolf,
That is a standard, common civilian banner that I believe to be more recent than the seller says. What exactly is your question here? Marc |
06-14-2005, 08:14 AM | #3 |
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I'd like to know if they fake these, and what a real one is worth.
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06-14-2005, 11:32 AM | #4 |
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Tim,
Yes, they now fake these too, even though their value is in the $100~$150 range for a nice banner. Marc |
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I have no specific question, just enjoyed the Banner so I posted the pics for those interested. Apparently the price the seller is asking is quite exagerated, right? Specially if not from the period he mentions and of a more recent production. Now that you mention they also fake these, what's your opinion on this one? Dolf |
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06-14-2005, 11:53 AM | #6 |
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Dolf,
Difficult to tell for sure as you need to have a close look at the thread used, but from your pics it looks fine. Marc |
06-14-2005, 04:46 PM | #7 |
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fakes
These are available in HUGE numbers in Russia and Ukraine (and pretty much all the republics I bet); I really know of no evidence that they are being faked (other than fake text being added to unissued examples). I would like to see an outright fake, and see what makes it fake, rather than accept that there are fakes based on the idea of "A guy I know has seen the fake factory" or " This guy says there are alot of fakes" etc. There simply is no real reason to fake them; they are available in large numbers and are cheap; on the Arbat a nice one will still bring under $100 if you shop from booth to booth.
However, that does not mean they will not be faked in the future; I still want to see a fake example though. The one in this photo is a standard nice example. I still have the one i fell in love with back in 1992. Paid $100 then, worth $100 now : ( DougD |
06-14-2005, 04:51 PM | #8 |
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Thanks a lot Doug.
Dolf |
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