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08-03-2003, 02:50 PM | #1 |
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"OKDVA" Soldier's Badge
Is this a real one or a fake?
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08-03-2003, 08:37 PM | #2 |
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Yurasha:
I´d say is a fake. I have seen other ones and the enamel is not so red. It was also more dark and slightly brilliant than the one you show. Esteban
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I am new to this hobby, but I understand that there are a lot of REALLY GOOD reproductions out there. This badge looks so genuine, it's a shame that it's a reproduction. Oh well, This is a way to learn I guess. Are there images of genuine OKDVA badges on this forum?
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waiting for specialists opinion, here's mine: some details aren't crisp (the hand of the rifleman for ex), the enamels work: two different colours, the one on the flag look like a restoration, the star make me think to a visor cap star! but don't forget it is only a pic (a good one indeed).
Wait for better analysis!
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Guys,
I would have to agree that it's a fake. As Charlet says, the detail is far to sloppy. Also take a look at the detail in the train track. Let's hear some more opinions either for or against authenticity. Art
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I won't make judgement on the piece but wanted to add a different view to this thread:
Since this badge was not produced at the mint, chances are there are at least a dozen variations... Since it was made at several factories and the striking pressure and other factors vary greatly from one to another! Just my thoughts... Rusty.
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Rusty you're right, let's see more pieces to compare and determine some version of fabrication. But I still don't like the star's style...
see Durov 's book p72, the details are very crisp, the star has flat edges.
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Here is the image of this badge without the retaining washer.
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The screw-post is a concern. It apears to have a flat base attached to the screw-post itself. I think that this ia a modern phenomenon only. Does anyone know of original Soviet era badges with this type of screw-post?
Also, the spots on the back where the pins should come through look odd - like solder. Is it two-pieces or just one piece trying to look like two pieces. Shawn |
08-05-2003, 01:13 PM | #10 |
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It is two piece.
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