WWI 1917 or 1918 date brass-fitted leather M1907 sling, choose date, mfg. mark For Sale

WWI 1917 or 1918 date brass-fitted leather M1907 sling, choose date, mfg. mark
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WWI 1917 or 1918 date brass-fitted leather M1907 sling, choose date, mfg. mark:

KERR CO. 1917 is the DEFAULT.Special note: During WWI, M1907 slings were treated with heavy coats of neatsfoot oil before entering service, and this was done at the unit level. The waterproofing was required for durability in the trenches!!! If you want yours DARKER ( which is the way they looked in actual service!!) application of a darkening, oil-based conditioner will be necessary, more on the KERR CO. 1917 than on the Rock Island Arsenal 1918. However, the KERR is a sturdier strap and as it arrives looks much like vintage straps would've on arrival at the units in the field. The latest of the KERR CO. 1917 have a pressed finish, which will NOT accept the conditioner without a lot of saturation and patience. So the Rock Island will, as unwrapped, look more authentic!! The KERR, however, is a sturdier strap for actual use. WWI-dated slings were still the most common in many infantry line outfits into and beyond World War Two!!
Another note: The KERR CO. 1917 vary more in color than any other marking/date set I have, from a brownish beige to quite red. I will try to update the photos to show this shortly. This reflects the originals, by the way.
I have these marked "Rock Island Arsenal 1918", Kerr Co. 1917 ( heavy 11-12 ounce leather), sometimes others, feature satin finish leather, and sometimes, UNMARKED. Ask about that last item, though, before offerding. Will probably not re-stock the unmarked. DO have unmarked, dyed brown, brass hooks, as a regular item, and will substitute if someone wants unmarked AFTER I run out.Any strong preference, as noted....CONTACT ME BEFORE offerDING!! This is as much as twelve ounce select leather. Default ( that is, if you do not specify ) is usually whichever one of which I have the most inventory when your order is paid... right now, that is KERR CO. 1917. If you do not state a preference, I simply send the default item!!!! One sling per sale. Neatsfoot will darken any of these down and make them look more as they did in service. They will ALSO last many times LONGER--so it pays. Shoe supply places stock Neatsfoot oil ( old terminology: "neatsfoot's oil").Same genuine cowhide (the finishes on my slings may differ, but they are ALL selected cowhide leather, no synthetics of ANY kind!!!), same "to regulation" quality of thick, sturdy leather...but marked or unmarked.Note the sturdy fittings and elliptical holes. These are NOT cheap, commercial "sort of" copies, they follow the old, original drawings.You can pick either. If no choice is selected (BEST TO CHECK BEFOREHAND IN CASE ONE IS LOW OR SOLD OUT!!!), I sent whichever falls first under the hand. This will usually be KERR CO. 1917, due to the sturdy matte finish leather.In over 50 years of collecting and shooting the M1 Garand and other U.S. military rifles, I've always much preferred the M1907 leather sling and its variants and tried to use the "sling wrap" on my forearms recommended by the best of the U.S. military match instructors.Note: Most of the stampings, as with the real World War I specimens, are LIGHTER and shallower than shown in the examples used here. I used the deepest on hand (now sold) to show the marking best. Photos will be updated by March First to try to reflect color and stamping variations.
For the past six years or so, I decided to sell of my excess from time to time, and rarely even bought specific items to help out other shooters.Use of neatsfoot or other leather condition is strongly recommended before these are even fitted to a rifle!!! So prepared, they will usually outlive their owners!! The effects of light coats are shown in the illustrations herein. Mink oil and so on also work nicely.World War I style, but with the later, easier to adjust hooks, in sturdy, thick brass.
These are "to regulation" Model of 1907 slings, 46-49" long strap, heavy hooks and fittings.
I have just a very few of these over and above my normal needs, and I have decided to sell them off at very reasonable prices.
NOTE: It is NOT recommended that 70+ year old ORIGINAL M1907 slings be used on rifles actually being carried or shot in a "sling wrap". Once dried or cracked, and sometimes with no obvious symptoms at all, they tend to crack and break. It's happened to me a couple of times, and can be expensive, embarrassing, and once in a while, PHYSICALLY DANGEROUS.
These are technically "reproductions" because they bear non-original markings.
These are also for sale locally. I have only a couple of this variant to sell at this very low price, and only because at the moment I am overstocked.
Elliptical holes, proper rivets, sturdy hooks and D-ring. Rifles and other items are NOT included. One dark dyed sling is shown in ONE photo for contrast. That also is NOT INCLUDED.Those inscribed are marked just as shown and would be appropriate for use/display with any U.S. rifle of WWI vintage. Indeed, these were used long after WWI, well into the 50's, tending to outlast the rifles in service. Originally, the brass fittings would've been "blackened" with a coat of paint, which wore off quickly in service.Generic information on the M1907 and background:The U.S. Sling, Rifle Model of 1907, featured two sturdy hooks ( called "frogs" in some parts of the world ), was comprised 10 or 12 ounce leather strapping, 1 1/4", in two belting components: the longer by regulation ran 46-48.5". The shorter, bearing the "D" ring, was typically 24" to 26.5". Length was adjustable, and they were rigged standard with the hook "flats" facing away from the butt stock. However, originally, there were various other uses and applications for the slings, and they were often rigged "upside-down" by users who wanted the sharp hook ends AWAY from their arms while shooting.
These were used on the last of the U.S. Krag rifles at the end of their duty, all '03 bolt action variants, the M1917 "Enfield" U.S. Rifle, the M1 Garand, even shotguns, and pretty much any rifle on military duty which could/would accept a 1 1/4" sling. Rumors to the contrary, if properly conditioned, they held up better to most climate and moisture conditions than the later web. They were slowly replaced by web slings primarily because the web units were much cheaper. Until well into 1942, metal fittings were brass, originally "blackened" ( that finish wore off almost immediately), after 1942 almost entirely blackened steel. The blacking could be phosphate, blue, or various paints or lacquers. It was adjustable for use as a shooting brace/stabilizer with a "sling wrap", and because it was so sturdy to use in that incarnation, many additional nations utilized them. Slings were issue at the unit level, and during World War II, generally, slings were OLDER than the rifles upon which they were first mounted. Part of the reason for this was the huge post-World War I surplus in military inventories, and indeed, many 1917 and 1918 dated slings remained in military inventories LONG AFTER WORLD WAR II!!!
These are all "to regulation", with the correct riveting and stitching in the appropriate places, using the newer, easier to adjust hooks. Original hooks seem to have been almost all of the "continuously curved" style, not popular in civilian use because of difficulty of adjust them until holes are somewhat fatigued. The holes were generally elliptical, and numbers varied.
The version--NOT PART OF THIS sale!!--for the Browning Automatic Rifle used a third hook, and was called the "Model of 1907, Modified", albeit in service usually called simply the "B.A.R. sling" or the "1918", neither of which is CORRECT, but which are more descriptive for ordinary folks. Some versions of the B.A.R. sling were longer in gross length, and the extant theory is that these were intended for the original "walking fire" concept, albeit no hard documentation exists to absolutely verify that.

On Aug-18-21 at 14:04:10 PDT, seller added the following information:

Neatsfoot will blotch with the glossier finishes. Some folks PREFER that. But if you mean to darken one a lot, and do so uniformly, patience and plenty of conditioner is required. I do sell them conditioned, but it's MORE.

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