The Soviet Military Awards Page Forum  
  • Serial Numbers Database 2.0
Enter Here

vBClassified Featured Listings
Seeking following Soviet campaign medals for ..,
Echoes of War
Echoes of War

Go Back   The Soviet Military Awards Page Forum > Soviet Awards Forums > General And Slightly Off Topic Talk > General Talk Archive

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-13-2007, 10:25 AM   #1
ericlida
Senior Member
 
ericlida's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Portland, Oregon, USA
Age: 71
Posts: 761
Cold War Award

Hillary Clinton and American Parlament came up with a proposition of establishing a medal "For service during a Cold War". The medal will be awarded to all military personnel served in the Military in 09.02.1945-12.26.1991.
Hillary Clinton stated that US won in the cold war with Soviet Union because of millions of Americans serving in the military. These people deserve to be awarded.
Here is the article (it is in Russian)
Íîâîñòè NEWSru.com :: Ïàðëàìåíòàðèè ÑØÀ ïðåäëîæèëè ó÷ðåäèòü ìåäàëü çà ïîáåäó íàä ÑÑÑÐ â õîëîäíîé âîéíå
Eric
ericlida is offline  
Sponsored Links
Old 04-13-2007, 12:04 PM   #2
desantnik
Forum Moderator
 
desantnik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Eurasia
Posts: 2,341
This was tried once before and the compromise was a certificate to all eligible.
desantnik is offline  
Old 04-14-2007, 07:52 AM   #3
Riley1965
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 612
Cold War Award

Yeah, that compromise was like a slap to the face. As a medic I treated all varieties of injuries including; amputations, fractures, etc. Any injury you would see in a war passed through my ER and ICU. These injuries and deaths were from training accidents, etc. The sacrifices made by our military during the Cold War deserves a service medal NOT a cheap piece of paper and lip-service from our government!!

Best,
Doc
Riley1965 is offline  
Old 04-14-2007, 08:10 AM   #4
new world
Senior Member
 
new world's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: NYC, USA
Posts: 1,086
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericlida View Post
Hillary Clinton and American Parlament came up with a proposition of establishing a medal "For service during a Cold War".

...

Eric
It's not for SERVICE, but for VICTORY in Cold War.

Very questianable statement to say at least.
new world is offline  
Old 04-14-2007, 08:24 AM   #5
Riley1965
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 612
Cold War Award

Eric,
Hillary's verbage may have been "For Victory" but the version that a group of Veteran's Organizations are pushing is "For Service". This "Service" medal is the one we are working on.

Doc
Riley1965 is offline  
Old 04-14-2007, 09:03 AM   #6
Esteban_cool
Senior Member
 
Esteban_cool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Santiago, Chile
Age: 36
Posts: 1,103
Quote:
Originally Posted by riley1965 View Post
Eric,
Hillary's verbage may have been "For Victory" but the version that a group of Veteran's Organizations are pushing is "For Service". This "Service" medal is the one we are working on.

Doc
I agree with establishing a medal "For Service". "for Victory" is a way too arrogant proposal and thus I think it should not be accepted.
__________________
There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Are now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

The Who, Won't get fooled again
Esteban_cool is offline  
Old 04-14-2007, 09:50 AM   #7
ericlida
Senior Member
 
ericlida's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Portland, Oregon, USA
Age: 71
Posts: 761
Victory in Cold War.
This is the most stupid statement.
How you can win in Cold War?
In my opinion in Cold war both countries (I mean people) LOST.
Also, I don't think that Soviet Union collepsed because of cold war or USA. There were many more more important different reasons.
Eric
ericlida is offline  
Old 04-14-2007, 09:57 AM   #8
Riley1965
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 612
Cold War Award

Eric,
I agree!! That's why we are asking for a "Cold War Service Medal" NOT the Senator's "Victory" medal. For those who think that there weren't losses think again. I'm sure that a Marine SSGT., that I treated, wouldn't consider the loss of both of his legs as trivial. All Medics and Corpsmen would tell you that there were indeed injuries and deaths during the period of the Cold War. We were constantly hit with Alerts. It was as real as it could get. This service and sacrifice should be recognized with a Service Medal.

Doc
Riley1965 is offline  
Old 04-14-2007, 10:16 AM   #9
ericlida
Senior Member
 
ericlida's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Portland, Oregon, USA
Age: 71
Posts: 761
Quote:
Originally Posted by riley1965 View Post
Eric,
I agree!! That's why we are asking for a "Cold War Service Medal" NOT the Senator's "Victory" medal. For those who think that there weren't losses think again. I'm sure that a Marine SSGT., that I treated, wouldn't consider the loss of both of his legs as trivial. All Medics and Corpsmen would tell you that there were indeed injuries and deaths during the period of the Cold War. We were constantly hit with Alerts. It was as real as it could get. This service and sacrifice should be recognized with a Service Medal.

Doc
I agree with you Michael 100%
When we are talking about people who put their health or life serving for their country, - those people deserve much more than only medal. They need to be recognized, awarded and respected.
Eric
ericlida is offline  
Old 04-14-2007, 12:02 PM   #10
desantnik
Forum Moderator
 
desantnik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Eurasia
Posts: 2,341
Quote:
Originally Posted by riley1965 View Post
Eric,
That's why we are asking for a "Cold War Service Medal"
The problem is the medal wasn't approved in the first place because the rationale was there were already enough "service" medals covering that time period - National Defense Service Medal, Korea, Vietnam, Expeditionary Service Medals, etc.
desantnik is offline  
 

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



U.S MILITARY KHAKI HEAVY WEB BELT WITH BRASS PLATED TIP BELT ONLY USA MADE picture

U.S MILITARY KHAKI HEAVY WEB BELT WITH BRASS PLATED TIP BELT ONLY USA MADE

$5.85



USGI Military Individual Equipment Army Pistol Belt ALICE LC-2 Green LARGE MINT picture

USGI Military Individual Equipment Army Pistol Belt ALICE LC-2 Green LARGE MINT

$19.88



U.S MILITARY BLACK WEB BELT WITH BRASS BUCKLE U.S.A MADE 54

U.S MILITARY BLACK WEB BELT WITH BRASS BUCKLE U.S.A MADE 54" MILITARY GRADE WEB

$14.95



U.S MILITARY ISSUE BLACK WEB  BELT WITH BLACK OPEN FACE BUCKLE ARMY 60

U.S MILITARY ISSUE BLACK WEB BELT WITH BLACK OPEN FACE BUCKLE ARMY 60" INCHES

$12.95



Humane Restraint Co BT-48 Waist Belt Restraint Cuff picture

Humane Restraint Co BT-48 Waist Belt Restraint Cuff

$75.00



BELT BUCKLE CANVAS WEB MILITARY ARMY USMC MARINE STYLE BELT BLACK BUCKLE CLASSIC picture

BELT BUCKLE CANVAS WEB MILITARY ARMY USMC MARINE STYLE BELT BLACK BUCKLE CLASSIC

$9.90



USGI Military ALICE Pistol WEB Belt Army Utility Duty LC-2 LARGE OD Green EXC picture

USGI Military ALICE Pistol WEB Belt Army Utility Duty LC-2 LARGE OD Green EXC

$18.89



 U.S Waist NCO Belt Civil War World war Army Original Leather Belt Hand made New picture

U.S Waist NCO Belt Civil War World war Army Original Leather Belt Hand made New

$37.37



Ukrainian Belt Trouser Glory To Ukraine Emblem Trident Tactical Army Tryzub picture

Ukrainian Belt Trouser Glory To Ukraine Emblem Trident Tactical Army Tryzub

$24.00



USGI Military ALICE Pistol WEB Belt Army Utility Duty LC-2 LARGE Green EXC picture

USGI Military ALICE Pistol WEB Belt Army Utility Duty LC-2 LARGE Green EXC

$18.29




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:41 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright ©2011 Arthur G. Bates III