The History Of Suspension?

[Christophe]

Originally Posted by charlet

Ed was perfectly right with his statement about GDR specific pentagonal geometry; I just wanted to correct his sentence "for some things only". The pentagonal suspension was not affected to some things only, but to the vast majority of their official orders, prizes and medals

[charlet]

Originally Posted by CtahhR

I suppose if you want someone to blame for Disney and Coca-cola (both of which do not issue military awards - YET!), I suppose you could blame those who invented money way back when.

I personally would focus more "irritation" at Graco and Lordship....

I don't focus any irritation at anyone, I'm just fond of historical short-circuits...

[CtahhR]

A vast number of DDR awards also had those rectangular bars somewhat uncomfortably attached as suspension devices. I really don't enjoy handling awards with these strange bars on them and I have seen the uncomfortable fit snap quite a few rings off.

[Christophe]

Originally Posted by medals73

Well, actually, there is an unofficial (of course) medal for the opening of the first McDonalds' in Moscow.

But that is off-topic, as it is in standard Soviet style.

I remember of a badge with a non-pentagonal suspension,, and the same for the 1st Year opening commorative badge...

Ch.

[medals73]

Originally Posted by charlet

Ed was perfectly right with his statement about GDR specific pentagonal geometry; I just wanted to correct his sentence "for some things only". The pentagonal suspension was not affected to some things only, but to the vast majority of their official orders, prizes and medals

True, but there is more interesting variability in the DDR than in many places.

Despite what we are told to believe about the DDR, there is a very different "chemistry" at work there. I find it very interesting.

[medals73]

Originally Posted by Christophe

I remember of a badge with a non-pentagonal suspension,, and the same for the 1st Year opening commorative badge...

Ch.

I though I had an image somewhere, but unlocated

And very off topic.

[Christophe]

Originally Posted by medals73

I though I had an image somewhere, but unlocated

And very off topic.

Yep...

I have myself several variations of them (opening and 1st Year opening) somewhere...

Ch.

[Lapa]

Originally Posted by CtahhR

Which DPRK awards had the 5 sided "Danish" suspensions? They usually had vertical sides similar to the Czechoslovakia Medals with the exception of some which are on 4 sided suspensions similar to Hero Stars (and some not so similar) and at least one (the Friendship Medal) has a Mongolian style suspension.

As far as I know, "pentagonal" means "five-sided". DPRK awards seem to be fitting this definition...

Marc

[charlet]

Originally Posted by medals73

True, but there is more interesting variability in the DDR than in many places.

Despite what we are told to believe about the DDR, there is a very different "chemistry" at work there. I find it very interesting.

GDR had shizophrenic relations with the soviet brothers in many fields: copying or not copying? Some awards were "twins" , some others were "socialist prussian-style"... Much originality in the first years of the regime and in the fifties, more conventionnal under the Honcker rule... about 50-60% of awards were with a pentagonal device. But I'm defintively off-topic.

I had a glance in the small Durov of 1988, and nothing about the genesis of the russian pentagonal ribbon. I think we need some help from Russian readers.

[medals73]

Originally Posted by Lapa

As far as I know, "pentagonal" means "five-sided". DPRK awards seem to be fitting this definition...

Marc

No, this is a normal hanging suspension, not stuck onto a rigid Soviet-style suspender. You do get some quirky solid suspensions in Korea, but not Soviet-style.

There's a (well, several) difference(s) here.