Patriotic War. - Page 46

***CtahhR*** · 09-25-2013, 03:10 PM

The "1985" Types start just over 450,000 for 1st Class and 980,000 for 2nd Class. These Types are still being issued as a very small trickle to veterans and their next of kin.

09-25-2013, 09:21 PM

Interested in whether or not this is real, and what something like this is worth, roughly?

Tommy · 09-26-2013, 01:48 AM

Im pretty sure the body is ok. But is the hammer and sickle a replacement? It looks a little undefined and the rivets look odd on the reverse.

I have just woken up though so ill have another look after ive drunk a coffee!

Tom

USSR · 09-26-2013, 05:26 AM

I don't agree with Tommy. I don't see any problems with this piece. But let's wait for a conclusive opinion... ;)

Ow, and I would estimate the value between $80-$100

charlet · 09-26-2013, 05:46 AM

hello Tommy, the rivets seem perfectly original and untouched. The picture is a little blurred and I would need a picture reference t be definitive... But a replaced H&C with plated metal would not have been replaced so properly IMHO.

Tommy · 09-26-2013, 05:51 AM

I agree.

I was looking on my phoen this morning so i apologise.

Picutures are blurry but all looks ok on a computer.

I agree with the $100 realistically.

cheers,

Tom

09-26-2013, 01:46 PM

I'm not sure if this is a first class or second class. I have one more that has me confused. As always, curious about authenticity and value, and any other good info you guys feel like sharing. Very impressed at how helpful and knowledgeable you guys are.

09-26-2013, 01:49 PM

The other one that I suspect may be 1st class and not 2nd, but only because of the gold color.

Bill Garvy · 09-26-2013, 02:23 PM

They are both nice examples of the 1985 Jubilee Issue of the Order of the Patriotic War in 1st Class. . . Current market value, in my opinion, is about $35 to $50 (USD) depending on condition, more if you have the Order Book that accompanies this award listing the person's name and the serial number you see engraved/inscribed on the reverse. . .

***CtahhR*** · 09-26-2013, 02:30 PM

Personally I really wouldn't like to see items like these selling for $50 even with documents. $35 with document is still a little "rich" for my tastes. The major factor in the market price of the 1985 issues is metal content.

With the complimentary documents the recipients can often be found on "the site" and a little more information presents itself. You won't find stories of heroics but a birth date and home town.

09-25-2013, 03:10 PM	#451
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Fake Orders of the Patriotic War 1st Class The "1985" Types start just over 450,000 for 1st Class and 980,000 for 2nd Class. These Types are still being issued as a very small trickle to veterans and their next of kin. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

09-26-2013, 01:48 AM	#453
Tommy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Beside the Shankly Gates Age: 36 Posts: 826	Re: Fake Orders of the Patriotic War 2nd Class Im pretty sure the body is ok. But is the hammer and sickle a replacement? It looks a little undefined and the rivets look odd on the reverse. I have just woken up though so ill have another look after ive drunk a coffee! Tom

09-26-2013, 05:46 AM	#455
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	Re: Fake Orders of the Patriotic War 2nd Class hello Tommy, the rivets seem perfectly original and untouched. The picture is a little blurred and I would need a picture reference t be definitive... But a replaced H&C with plated metal would not have been replaced so properly IMHO. __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed) Last edited by charlet; 09-26-2013 at 05:48 AM.

09-26-2013, 05:51 AM	#456
Tommy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Beside the Shankly Gates Age: 36 Posts: 826	Re: Fake Orders of the Patriotic War 2nd Class I agree. I was looking on my phoen this morning so i apologise. Picutures are blurry but all looks ok on a computer. I agree with the $100 realistically. cheers, Tom

09-26-2013, 02:23 PM	#459
Bill Garvy Comrade Curmudgeon Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,642	Re: Fake Orders of the Patriotic War 2nd Class They are both nice examples of the 1985 Jubilee Issue of the Order of the Patriotic War in 1st Class. . . Current market value, in my opinion, is about $35 to $50 (USD) depending on condition, more if you have the Order Book that accompanies this award listing the person's name and the serial number you see engraved/inscribed on the reverse. . .

09-26-2013, 05:26 AM	#454
USSR Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Europe Posts: 95	I don't agree with Tommy. I don't see any problems with this piece. But let's wait for a conclusive opinion... ;) Ow, and I would estimate the value between $80-$100

09-26-2013, 02:30 PM	#460
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Fake Orders of the Patriotic War 2nd Class Personally I really wouldn't like to see items like these selling for $50 even with documents. $35 with document is still a little "rich" for my tastes. The major factor in the market price of the 1985 issues is metal content. With the complimentary documents the recipients can often be found on "the site" and a little more information presents itself. You won't find stories of heroics but a birth date and home town. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

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