Fake Orders of the Red Banner

[CtahhR]

Something along the lines of "quality control" at the mint. Certain not a "D" for "Duplicate".

[Auke]

The "Д" is a maker's or inspection mark (a техническое клеймо as the Russians call it). This is definitely not a duplicate.

[marsino]

Hi! What do you mean exactly - is the "D" a maker`s mark!? Or if not - what else?

Thanks.

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[Shocktrooper]

Hi guys,

please take a look at this Red Banner - what do you think:

is it

A) a regular, early Red Banner?
B) a fake made of a late Red Banner converting it into a screwback and by changing it`s serial number?
C) a re-conversion from a 1943 altered, genuine screwback piece?

I`m quite uncertain...

With best regards.

[Shocktrooper]

Just to answer the question from October: the piece was genuine :D But how about this one...?

[USSR]

Just to answer the question from October: the piece was genuine :D But how about this one...?

I like it but I understand your concerns. The serial number is not completely consistent with the orders I have on file in this range. The shiny reverse is probably the result of heavy polishing but it looks different.

Anyway, I would buy it so I think it's ok.

[Shocktrooper]

Hi USSR,

thank you very much for your opinion. The shiny finish on the reverse made me suspicious indeed. It comes with the order booklet, containing a nice photograph of the recipient. He was an infantry company commander and got it for personally destroying a German tank with crew, thus leading two companies out of a full enemy encirclement. A very nice story, I think.

With kind regards

[USSR]

Hi USSR,

thank you very much for your opinion. The shiny finish on the reverse made me suspicious indeed. It comes with the order booklet, containing a nice photograph of the recipient. He was an infantry company commander and got it for personally destroying a German tank with crew, thus leading two companies out of a full enemy encirclement. A very nice story, I think.

With kind regards

I love those personolized orders! Great find and story indeed

[Shocktrooper]

Hi USSR,

there we are :)

[DennisBC1976]

Hello everybody, thought id start with the easy ones i have found- i realise one of these is a earlier screwback & the other 2 are later with the pin & hooks- how do they fluctuate so much in price? Is it a case of finding out who they where awarded too? How do I do this if so? My Russian is terrible! Is it age related? I have tried to look through various dealers/auction site's etc. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks, ill attach pics of what I have found.
Serial no's are from left to right:
245596
247907
455700