Gold Star "Hero Of The Soviet Union".
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Gold Star "Hero Of The Soviet Union".
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03-15-2008, 12:20 AM
I was browsing through my scans the other day and found these pictures we all have seen before. This is obviously a T2 medal on a late suspension. I have seen dozens of photos of Lapidevsky, including some later ones, and it would appear that he always had a T1 star. Any ideas?
Alexei 
03-15-2008, 02:29 AM
Why would anyone do such a thing to a Hero Star(especially with that low SN)???!!!
This is bad. Very bad.
There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again 
03-15-2008, 02:30 AM
I am disgusted.:mad::censored:hurl:cry: Why the hell would someone cut off the arms of an HSU like this? Hopefully a really good jeweler can fabricate the removed arms from the star and return it as close as possible to its original state.
03-15-2008, 07:57 AM
We are collectors and we love our things but this reflects the modern russian history in the early 90ties. Some poor guy had to cut the gold of a hero star to pay for food or living. It´s not disrespect it´s need. Maybe this was the last valueble thing that could be sold and in 1989-90 it was worth the gold value and nothing more. It´s easy to judge a person especially when we don´t have the story.
Best
sovvisor
03-15-2008, 08:10 AM
Alexei,
Could it be a case of a "copy of the original made for a museum", as was endemic in the former Soviet Union? Marc Alexei, It is so mutilated that identifying details are all but non-existent. I know this might be far-fetched, but could it be a novel way for fakers to distribute their wares? Marc 
03-16-2008, 04:29 AM
It looks like spray pant. For some reason it does not look like gold.
03-16-2008, 04:38 PM
Marc,
I suppose it's possible, it's hard to tell from this picture if it's a genuine medal or a replica. I am leaning towards genuine. Besides they could've easily made a T1 replica. In either case, the question still remains, where's the original #1? :confused: Alexei 
03-16-2008, 04:40 PM
What's to say he didn't just change out the suspensions and the medal pictured is still #1?
03-16-2008, 04:54 PM
Lapa Wrote:Alexei, Marc, There are other pictures of this piece floating around, and it looks genuine. Besides, I doubt a faker would use all this gold to make a piece that has no collectible value, they could just make a decent fake and sell it for more money. Alexei sovvisor Wrote:Some poor guy had to cut the gold of a hero star to pay for food or living. It´s not disrespect it´s need. Maybe this was the last valueble thing that could be sold and in 1989-90 it was worth the gold value and nothing more. It´s easy to judge a person especially when we don´t have the story. That's true, I don't have the story, but I do believe that a person in need would've sold the entire medal, not just pieces. Unfortunately, to me this looks like a case of somebody needing gold for teeth caps. Alexei Desantnik, I suppose that's possible, but I have seen lots of pictures of him as an old man wearing his star, and it was always a T1. Alexei 
03-16-2008, 05:10 PM
Nota Bene Wrote:Desantnik, Lapidevski died in 1983 but it is easily imaginable that on this very date the museum did the suspension change? Durov book is from 1990.
Sebastien
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