To make the polish documents more clear...
For a start - guide to the new style booklets (mid50's-1989)
Most of the awards were issued by the State Council (Rada Państwa, a sort of a collective president), however the signature of it's president, as well as all others on the booklets is in 90% of cases stamped.
hello, thnak you for this clear explanation. Do you have any hints about faking of such documents? I see on allegro a lot of rare documents, too rare and cheap to be honest (bravery cross, medals for merits on field of battle, rodlo medal, etc...)...
Sebastien
"a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism"
(a well-known german bearbed)
Haven't heard of them being faked. The medals temselves are of course all faked, but didn't come across faked doc's. However, they are quite easy to fake - just need a hard paper, color printer and a typewriter + cover from enother booklet. I try only to collect more or less compleate groups, so it's hard to find them faked. I will ask the the people who aer more up-to-date in the field
Here's what I have learned: The only documents that are being faked are those of the pre-war awards, and they are easy to recognise with a magnifying glass (pixels!), but post war award documents, as well as war time ones are not yet faked - simply more people are interested in the awards themselves than their docs.
charlet Wrote:ok! Thank you for these infos! here's an example of a doc belonging to a group I kept from being splitted:
Looks OK. In this case they used the State Council's decision of awarding as a legal base instead of recalling the order status. Niuce find, as Officer's Cross of Polonia Restituta is quite a rare thing to find, esp. documented. Many thanks for any effort to keep the polish awards groups intact - I myself have spent quite a lot of money on saving an award group this month, it's good to know I am not alone:)
Once things get back to normal, I'll scan the one Polish document I have. I am pursuing more of these medals myself, but I think a good set of Warsaw Pact era awards thread(s) would be in order (no pun intended). There is so much misinformation about what some of the Polish medals and orders were for because of the ignorance of many sellers on the big online auctions.
Unless, of course, there is a good resource available for identifying all of these Communist period awards.:)
And as promised, some older award docs. The document for the Grunwald Badge did not change later, but later awardings of other awards came with standarized booklets, the ones like the Warsaw medal booklet shown below were in use untill late 40's, or probably untill 1952.
deValcourt Wrote:Once things get back to normal, I'll scan the one Polish document I have. I am pursuing more of these medals myself, but I think a good set of Warsaw Pact era awards thread(s) would be in order (no pun intended). There is so much misinformation about what some of the Polish medals and orders were for because of the ignorance of many sellers on the big online auctions.
Unless, of course, there is a good resource available for identifying all of these Communist period awards.:)
