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I am new to Soviet memorabilia collecting and I am very drawn to these large velvet Soviet banners I find on Ebay. Most of them appear to be some kind of award for a local business meeting a quota and they have Lenin's face on one side. I typically see them range from about $200-400, does this seem to be a fair price? Is Ebay a bad idea for buying these banners, if so is there a better place to purchase? Also, any general advice for purchasing/collecting soviet memorabilia in general is greatly appreciated. The time taken to read my post and offer help is greatly appreciated.
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The sphere of banners is giant. Not only in purpose but quality and period. Military or revolutionary banners from the civil war period are pretty much beyond the pocket of most enthusiasts. Labour banners are more easily available with their prices usually on a sliding scale with oldest being most expensive. With that the quality also slipped. The five year plans and VKLSM were the driving forces behind most of the post war award banners. Late examples can be picked up for almost nothing. Don't expect hand sewn items but screenprinted plastics.
For banners in the collection I have paid between $1 and $35. They vary from cotton to plastic, embroidered to printed and vary in size.
Warehouse fresh republic flags can usually be picked up for $20 for a metre width. Unflown in their thirty year existence.
Usually when you find "buy it now." Not bought it means severely overpriced.
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05-24-2013, 04:24 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-24-2013, 05:30 PM by Keith.)
I collect the labor banners only from Soviet Estonia, but notice some trends in banners for the other republics as well. The velvety and satiny banners are nice, avoid the plasticy or clothy banners. Those with the stitching done by hand or machine are nice, avoid anything that is printed or screened onto the banner. The nice banners in Estonia run about $150-$300, and the cheap banners to be avoided run about $30-$50. Estonian tends to cost more, it seems the real market prices for other republics are about 25-50% less. There are lots of overpriced banners on ebay, nobody ever seems to buy them.
Its better to get a banner from an individual enterprise as opposed to a governmental unit or region. The local banners tend to be unique, you will not find another one. However the ministries and counties made some banners by the dozens and you will often find duplicates on the market. For example, I would imagine a banner called "winner of the labor competition of Kiev" would exist by the dozens, whereas "winner of the labor competition for the Kiev bakery" would be almost unique.
Some banners were awarded on an annual basis to be kept, these would be more plentiful than the banners that were to be passed on to the next years award recipient.
Documents exist for the banners as well, these are very difficult to find.
Military banners tend to be more expensive, and sport banners tend to be less expensive.
I hope this helps!
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Doug Drabik (dadrabik here) often trades in military banners and I can vouch for him. These are definitely more expensive than labor banners or pendants.
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During my visits to Estonia I have seen a few nice banners from different organizations. Some cheap, some more expensive. I like Estonia SSR and try to pick up good stuff when I come across them. Just recently I had a velvet banner with the Estonia state seal - but sold it as I do not have display space.
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This is a beautiful banner, almost certainly unique from a fairly small factory. My experience is that they made these banners in large quantities then embroidered the name of the factory when it was purchased. These are beautiful items.....