"Red Banner Of Labour" Order.

[new world]

I think these two names are supposed to mean the same, but because of translation they sound different. It all depends what source one uses.

I wish there would be standard reference (similar to McDaniel book) for Mongolian awards to end the confusion.

William

[Dolf]

William,

Thank you.
Which reference do you use, if not Herfurth's system?
I've seen other references, but only on a couple of web sites :confused:

Best,

Dolf

[Taz]

This is again an interesting topic, remember the other thread on the Order for Civil Valor from a while back.

Dolf, if its any consolation I also go by the Herfurth system, three names, different time periods in Mongolian history = three Orders.
This is of course my own personal preferance.
If you notice Yuri for example uses different methods than Herfurth for some and not for others.
As William says, I also wish there was one system for Mongolian awards.
Maybe if there is any interest we could post any seen variations (sub-variations ?)
We could then decide amongst ourselves what system to use for these Orders.
What do you guys think?

Order for Civil Valor, 1926-1940 No Ribbon

Орден За гражданскую доблесть

Variations

(a) With assay stamps
(b) With Mondwor, makers number and S/N
© With Monetnyi Dwor and S/N

Order of Labour Glory, 1940-1945 No Ribbon

Орден Трудовая слава

Variations as in Jans pics

(a) With Monetnyi Dwor and S/N
(b) With Monetnyi Dwor, makers numbers/marks and S/N

Order of the Red Banner of Labour With Ribbon - Green/Red/Green

Орден Трудового красного знамени

Type 1, 1945-1970, S/N, Screwback

Type 2, from 1970, S/N, Pinback

Eddie.

[DutchBoy]

I bought that one recently from a dealer on eBay! And it's quite a piece...beautiful and HEAVY! I love this order.

Here's a pic, and Vatjan, keep up the great work with that serial number list!

[Dolf]

The enamel ribbon for the Order of the Red Banner of Labor Valor.

Dolf

[Dolf]

The cloth ribbon for the Order of the Red Banner of Labor Valor.

Dolf

[Sergei]

Wanted to share with you my latest. A pinback. Common. Cheap by modern standards. But you just look at the enamelwork!
The second scan is for those who are not into Mongolian (yet:D ), to compare with a common T6 Soviet labour order. Gives you an idea about the size of these things.
Sergei

[medals73]

Yes, a nice Type 2.1, the serial number would put it approximately into the 1976-77 period.

:cheers:

[claretbaron]

Order of the Red Banner of Labor, screw back, 1945 type, #2869 wiht award book. I have it 2 years.

[Greg Collins]

A really nice order; I have #3478. Does your's have a slight "rattle" (a little movement between the seal and the star)? Many of these seem to have that.