What is this for kinda cap ?

[Ser-g]

hi folks ,,

there is not much to say,
what is this cap for ?

it is red , like motorized rifle , and has a black crown.

[Tretov]

Suvorov military school students would have that combo, but the crown looks huge like a generals cap... :confused:
I thought those caps were more modest.

[Commissar]

Perhaps it is a mis-made cap?
A suvorov school mishap? Possibly?
Not a bad thing though, I love it.

[Ser-g]

my first thought was suvorov too, but i dropped it because this one does not have white piping.

i guess it is from the earlier 90ties because of the crown size ya.

any other ideas

[Tretov]

Ah yes, white piping - I got to go and get glasses...

How about militia, where cocarde and chinstrap has been changed?

[Commissar]

Hey, what if its prison guards?
The GDR had similar patterns for their prison hats, so maybe?

And I thought the Militia had grey smoke caps with red piping/band not black?

[Tretov]

Any chance to get a photo of the inside?

[Commissar]

Perhaps it is transitional militia/suvorov?
That would explain the high crown and the colours.

[Ser-g]

my first thoth was suvorov transitional too, but it hap pends to be that i have a suvorov form Russian make (199x) witch has the red band black top and white piping.

i had some other pictures made of the cap.
it looks to me as a late soviet cap , maybe indeed transitional.

[Commissar]

Hmm, I think it could very well be a prison guards hat.
Thats what Im guessing.