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Fake "Excellent" Badges. - Nota Bene - 09-13-2002
Mark,
The Sapper badge is perfectly genuine WWII issue, and even comes with proper period screwplate. The Submariner is unfortunately a fake.
Alexei
Fake "Excellent" Badges. - Tal Inbar - 09-14-2002
This term is used on ebay as follows:
"35mm x 45mm Brass and Red and white Enamel Badge with screw back suspension very good condition re- issue ".
Fake "Excellent" Badges. - Mozzabloke - 09-15-2002
Oh well I was convinced the sub was a fake, Thanks for confirming this for me.
I figured the sapper was genuine.
maybe Im getting better at this!
Thanks again all.
Mark
Fake "Excellent" Badges. - Nota Bene - 09-15-2002
Tal,
In a way any fake is a re-issue :)
Alexei
Fake "Excellent" Badges. - Mozzabloke - 09-15-2002
looks like the 'reissue' sub badge came from the same batch as mine its identical.
I know this dealer and have always found him to be honest and reliable, So I'm a little surprised at the 'reissue' description.
Does anyone know of a website that lists all the different types of Otlichink badges? ideally with photos?
Thanks
Mark
Fake "Excellent" Badges. - Tal Inbar - 09-15-2002
If you want those:
Air Defence
Artillerist
Field Baker
Bridgebuilder
Driver
Machinegunner
Medic
Mortarer
Pontooner
Sapper
Scout
Signaller
Sniper
Tank
Tractor Driver
Railway Transport Troop
Tal
Fake "Excellent" Badges. - Nota Bene - 09-15-2002
Tal, Mark,
Also:
Mines Specialist,
Cook,
Firefighter,
Marksman (1947), and
Airforce (1950, two variations)
Alexei
Fake "Excellent" Badges. - Tal Inbar - 11-03-2002
The seller on ebay was happy with the story, and now he presents more details....:
"In my opinion, this badge must be an UNOFICIAL RESTRIKE of the one of the most collectible badges from the famous 1943 set . The badge looks definitely old and legit , but something "smells bad" with the enamel. May be I was lucky, during my last trip to Russia, but I found 4 of them at one time and at one place. Later I was told that people in Moscow found the original WWII die and "borrowed" it for one night from the factory. They made around 80 unauthorized copies of this extremely desirable badge. "
:p Why just 80?
Fake "Excellent" Badges. - Nota Bene - 11-03-2002
Tal,
I think just this guy sold more then 80 of those fakes on eBay. It certainly does "smell bad".
Alexei
Fake "Excellent" Badges. - steven.sabinash - 12-03-2002
I have a couple of badges that look suspect. The first is a Torpedo Ortificer and the second one I have no idea what it is.
The Torpedomans badge is heavier and thicker than some of that type of badges that I have. The other one is of three piece construction. I have included photos.