Well I'm a bit disapointed about my toothbruch skills. It seems I have washed out the nice patina it had. I have somehow removed the glue with a tooth brush, hot water and some soap. I normally like my medals dirty, but I didn't like the glue on it!
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| Leave the damn thing alone! Don't mess with what looks like a period repair | 12 | 54.55% | |
| Have the solder removed to make the serial number readable | 9 | 40.91% | |
| Repair the enamel only | 0 | 0% | |
| Remove the solder AND repair the enamel | 1 | 4.55% | |
| Total | 22 vote(s) | 100% | |
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12-19-2006, 10:26 AM
Brian,
Using a toothbrush is in effect mechanically abrading the surface, even if the toothbrush is in fact soft. Some type of patina can be removed by even the lightest rubbing, while other ones tend to be more permanent (but will come off if you rub them more energetically and with more abrasive types of compounds). I hate that "told you so" type of statement, but you would not have lost the patina had you used acetone with a q-tip. Marc 
12-19-2006, 04:06 PM
Lapa Wrote:I hate that "told you so" type of statement, but you would not have lost the patina had you used acetone with a q-tip. I guess you were right. How long could it get before a get a new patina? 
12-20-2006, 04:21 AM
Soviet Wrote:I guess you were right. How long could it get before a get a new patina? Many years 
I just received a beautiful Mongolian badge that has some enamel damge to the front, and a huge blob of solder on the back that is: A) covering most of the nice mirror reverse, B) possibley covering a serial number and C) butt ugly.
I'm now considering having this sent off to a pro for repair (Dr.Love). But I'd like some opinions please. Should I:
"patina imparts character" - PJS
A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.' 
02-20-2007, 12:20 AM
What are you going to do with it? If it's going to go into a display case and you're only going to see the obverse 99% of the time, I'd just leave it as is, since the damage to the enamel is not too bad.
Gorgeous badge. 
02-20-2007, 12:24 AM
Wow that really is a blob of solder!! I voted for having the blob removed but I am not sure the cost of that in comparison to getting a different badge all-together. Then again that is not taking into effect how rare the badge might be and the chances of getting another one. Ty clete
02-20-2007, 01:03 AM
ekclete Wrote:Wow that really is a blob of solder!! Yeah, ain't it ugly?  Then again I'm guessing the repair was done years ago by the owner in Mongolia.ekclete Wrote:...but I am not sure the cost of that in comparison to getting a different badge all-together. Then again that is not taking into effect how rare the badge might be and the chances of getting another one. Ty clete It's not that rare; there are some to be had at various dealer's sites. Then again Mongolia is not *that* big a country, medal-wise at least. My price was about a quarter of the going rate (for this specific instance) and the repair guy, while out of the country, is known for his excellent work and great prices. I've a request in to him to see what the price is but say $30 for both enamel and solder I'd think 'not a bad deal'. I'm gonna withhold my own ideas on what repairs to make for the momoent so as not to confuse things on this poll.
"patina imparts character" - PJS
A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'
02-20-2007, 01:04 AM
January Wrote:What are you going to do with it? If it's going to go into a display case and you're only going to see the obverse 99% of the time, I'd just leave it as is, since the damage to the enamel is not too bad. Thanks. Yeah, it's going into a display case. But, it's my first mirror reverse of any kind, and I'd like to know if there is indeed a serial number on it.
"patina imparts character" - PJS
A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.' 
02-20-2007, 01:08 AM
It is highly unlikely that the serial numbers for these Udarnik badges will be items that can be researched any time soon. Leave it alone. Should things change, you (or a future custodian) can always assault the solder-clod.
It is a nice (enough) mirror-back Udarnik, enjoy it. And further enjoy the history of what seems to me to be a user-made repair. These are real, living things, don't forget or ignore that. |
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