Researching Red Army/Navy Units

[desantnik]

A quick check of wikipedia tells me that this could be Russian (pre-1918), Bulgarian (pre-1878), Kazakh, Belorussian, or Ukrainian.

Based on what little I know, I'd vote for old Russian or old Bulgarian since the others tended to be dominated by Russian in the days of organized units (unless this is some sort of Civil War throw-back?).

I thought only Ukrainian had the "i".

[Kirchgoens]

I've seen it in Belorussian and Kazakh in the past couple years myself, but my info above comes from wikipedia. I guess it was one of the many letters nixed after the Revolution. Frankly, with my experience learning Russian, I find the loss of a few letters and a grammatical case or two to be maybe the only happy liquidations to come out of the Terror (although the loss of any sort of aristocrat pleases my early American heart). "Bukvacide" might be a good term for that loss of the Russian "i"? :D

[Lapa]

Guys,

These were some sort of Russian Imperial distinction badges.

Marc

[DougD]

Looking for any information from the war for the '31st Special Anti-Tank Rifle Battalion'...

DougD

[desantnik]

Doug, you sure it's "Special"? I've never heard of anything like that. If your getting your information from an abbreviation and the letter is an "O", it's probably for "Independent" and not "O" as in "osobii", or special.

Additionally, you'll probably be hard pressed. There is good information on brigades, less on regiments, and next to nothing on battalions.

[DougD]

Desantnik,

You are correct, probably an Ind. Battalion....i know its a shot in the dark, but maybe someone has something...would it be classified as a "Rifles" Unit?

DougD

[desantnik]

Desantnik,

You are correct, probably an Ind. Battalion....i know its a shot in the dark, but maybe someone has something...would it be classified as a "Rifles" Unit?

DougD

Slightly confusing in English.

It was an "anti-tank rifle" battalion employing those long, individually carried PTR guns.

More than likely it was subordinate to a "rifle" (in this case nothing to do with anti-tank rifle) division or regiment.

[marcotk]

Just translated few days ago a research for a Separate (or Ind.) Anti-tank Rifle Battalion's Platoon that was part, as Paul said, of a Rifle Regiment and then Rifle Division. :thumbsup

[Norm Braddock]

Just translated few days ago a research for a Separate (or Ind.) Anti-tank Rifle Battalion's Platoon that was part, as Paul said, of a Rifle Regiment and then Rifle Division. :thumbsup

Thanks paisan, I posted it. :D

I believe the '31st Special Anti-Tank Rifle Battalion' was formed after the '30th Special Anti-Tank Rifle Battalion'.

:D

[marcotk]

Norm, :thumbsup

By the way, it looks like the 31st OBPTR was created on Jan 1st 44, and was under the 10th Guards Army.