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11-14-2012, 08:34 AM
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Hi,
it most likely is a fake; less detail on Lenin`s portrait, crude stamped number, strange screwpost base with obvious fake patina (to hide solder ?), missing wearing traces and genuine patina, the uncommon "outer rim" seen on some parts of the edge of the reverse, etc.
But at the first glimpse the obverse looked quite convincing ;)
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Maybe higher res photos could be helpfull to decide for sure? ;)
i could get them i think
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11-14-2012, 12:31 PM
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Shocktrooper Wrote:Hi,
it most likely is a fake; less detail on Lenin`s portrait, crude stamped number, strange screwpost base with obvious fake patina (to hide solder ?), missing wearing traces and genuine patina, the uncommon "outer rim" seen on some parts of the edge of the reverse, etc.
But at the first glimpse the obverse looked quite convincing ;)
Jens
could be juste a suspension-type converted to produce a fake?
Lapa Wrote:Strange mintmark!
the letters seem thickier compared to photos on mondvor.narod.ru?
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Seb,
Most likely a later, suspension type from whose SN a digit was erased.
I wouldn't mind larger, higher-resolution scans.
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Oh i get it :) it must be Mondvor not Monetny dvor ?
i should seen that myself
thanks
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ms_lt Wrote:Oh i get it :) it must be Mondvor not Monetny dvor ?
i should seen that myself
thanks
No, you did not get it in this case. It is a later, suspension-type order that was altered by removing the suspension ring and erasing probably one digit, to make it look as what should be: a screwback Order of Lenin of the Monetny Dvor type.
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thak you for explanation ;)
so this order does not have value as an order? just as a piece of gold?
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That's exact. As an order, it has been irremediably damaged. Now, it can plug a hole in the collection IF presented as what it really is, or it can be seen as an assembly of different precious metals.
Marc
