02-20-2003, 11:47 AM
This is an order of the Red Banner---looks OK to me
This is a common order and not usually faked at this version as cost is about 30-40 US for the order
Fakes for the red banner order usually show up more in the screwback variation and the multiple issues to same individual
Most common screwback fake I have seen involes taking one like yours, cutting off the loop and affixing a screwback post and changing the serial #---value for screwback considerably more then suspension model
For the multiple issue red banners (red banner with a #2 or #3 or #4 etc in the order) is to eith make from scratch or take a #2 and knock out the #2 and replace it with a #4 or #3, etc, etc--then change the serial #
A #2 red banner worth about $170 USD a number #3 red banner worth between $300 and $400 USD in todays market
As you can see as the dollar value goes up--so does the effort to fake
Prices are ballpark prices but gives you a rough idea of what different variations are worth
With the one pictured at $30-$40 USD it would be too much trouble to fake---unless it was to complete a group that was missing the red banner I have seen where serial #'s were modified to match an issue book on a group
Hope this helps
This is a common order and not usually faked at this version as cost is about 30-40 US for the order
Fakes for the red banner order usually show up more in the screwback variation and the multiple issues to same individual
Most common screwback fake I have seen involes taking one like yours, cutting off the loop and affixing a screwback post and changing the serial #---value for screwback considerably more then suspension model
For the multiple issue red banners (red banner with a #2 or #3 or #4 etc in the order) is to eith make from scratch or take a #2 and knock out the #2 and replace it with a #4 or #3, etc, etc--then change the serial #
A #2 red banner worth about $170 USD a number #3 red banner worth between $300 and $400 USD in todays market
As you can see as the dollar value goes up--so does the effort to fake
Prices are ballpark prices but gives you a rough idea of what different variations are worth
With the one pictured at $30-$40 USD it would be too much trouble to fake---unless it was to complete a group that was missing the red banner I have seen where serial #'s were modified to match an issue book on a group
Hope this helps












