Red Banner.
#61
New World,

I think I should mention that I don't like the serial number on this screwback order. I am almost certain that it was changed.

Alexei
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#62
I purchase this group from someone who wasnt sure what he had for the minimal price. Can you please rip it to pieces for me. Dont hold back. Thanks


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#63
This is an order of the Red Banner---looks OK to me

This is a common order and not usually faked at this version as cost is about 30-40 US for the order

Fakes for the red banner order usually show up more in the screwback variation and the multiple issues to same individual

Most common screwback fake I have seen involes taking one like yours, cutting off the loop and affixing a screwback post and changing the serial #---value for screwback considerably more then suspension model

For the multiple issue red banners (red banner with a #2 or #3 or #4 etc in the order) is to eith make from scratch or take a #2 and knock out the #2 and replace it with a #4 or #3, etc, etc--then change the serial #

A #2 red banner worth about $170 USD a number #3 red banner worth between $300 and $400 USD in todays market

As you can see as the dollar value goes up--so does the effort to fake

Prices are ballpark prices but gives you a rough idea of what different variations are worth

With the one pictured at $30-$40 USD it would be too much trouble to fake---unless it was to complete a group that was missing the red banner I have seen where serial #'s were modified to match an issue book on a group

Hope this helps
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#64
Thank you Karlos. It does.
And yes, this is my first ORIGINAL piece.

Hurray.!!
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#65
Congratulations from Sweden to a good buy. This is a perfect level for first buys. Really nice piece.
Keep on looking
sovvisor
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#66
A very beautiful order, congratulations. How much did it cost to you and where did you get it?:cool:
There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Are now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

The Who, Won't get fooled again
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#67
I only payed $10.00 from someone in Germany. Not bad huh..
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#68
you got a good deal!!

great start!

Alanirvine
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#69
Any opinions on this Red Banner? Mondvor.narod.ru states the highest known serial number as 69027 and this one has 69117.


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#70
Looks good to me, looks identical to mine only mine has a lot of replaced enamel.

I wouldnt worry about the serial number either its not a million miles from the highest known.

Mark

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