HSUs and HSLs...

Esteban_cool · 01-26-2004, 11:01 AM

When a person was named HSU for a second time, he did not receive another Order of Lenin, right? But now, if a HSU (just once, with his Lenin, diploma and bust and all that stuff) received a HSL?
Was he awarded another Order of Lenin?

Esteban

Taz · 01-29-2004, 07:56 PM

Hi Esteban,

I always thought that an Order of Lenin was Issued for each HSU & HSL.

Eddie.

Esteban_cool · 01-29-2004, 08:04 PM

I also thought the same (that was a kind of explanation to myself for why did Brezhnev and Zhukov had so many Lenins) but in this page, the info provided said that after the second HSU the hero did not recveive another one.

Esteban

Taz · 02-15-2004, 06:14 AM

Esteban,

At first, only a gramota (special authencating document) was given, since 1936 the person was automatically afforded membership in Order of Lenin, which was the highest Soviet Order created in the same year.

The membership in Order of Lenin could be afforded without awarding the Hero.

In 1939 the Soviet government established a special medal "The Gold Star". Since then, a person nominated the Hero of the Soviet Union received a gramota, a medal "The Gold Star" and a membership in Order of Lenin.
With the second nomination, only a gramota and "The Gold Star" were given.

Since 1973, presumably due to the true love of that time soviet leader Brezhnev to the decorations, who was the Hero of the USSR 4! times and once a Labor Hero (The Hammer and Sickle Gold Medal), the membership in Order of Lenin was afforded with consequent nominations.

Eddie.

charlet · 02-15-2004, 08:21 AM

Hi Esteban, Eddie is 100% right, as said in PMD p.22 article 4 author's note)

01-26-2004, 11:01 AM	#1
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	HSUs and HSLs... When a person was named HSU for a second time, he did not receive another Order of Lenin, right? But now, if a HSU (just once, with his Lenin, diploma and bust and all that stuff) received a HSL? Was he awarded another Order of Lenin? Esteban __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again Last edited by Esteban_cool; 01-27-2004 at 07:07 PM.

01-29-2004, 07:56 PM	#2
Taz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Herford, Germany Age: 65 Posts: 2,152	????? Hi Esteban, I always thought that an Order of Lenin was Issued for each HSU & HSL. Eddie. __________________ Everybody's equal, But some more than others! "Those who come to us with the sword - will be killed by the sword" - Alexander Nevski

01-29-2004, 08:04 PM	#3
Esteban_cool Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Santiago, Chile Age: 36 Posts: 1,103	I also thought the same (that was a kind of explanation to myself for why did Brezhnev and Zhukov had so many Lenins) but in this page, the info provided said that after the second HSU the hero did not recveive another one. Esteban __________________ There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Are now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight The Who, Won't get fooled again

02-15-2004, 06:14 AM	#4
Taz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Herford, Germany Age: 65 Posts: 2,152	Hero of the Soviet Union/Lenin Awards Esteban, At first, only a gramota (special authencating document) was given, since 1936 the person was automatically afforded membership in Order of Lenin, which was the highest Soviet Order created in the same year. The membership in Order of Lenin could be afforded without awarding the Hero. In 1939 the Soviet government established a special medal "The Gold Star". Since then, a person nominated the Hero of the Soviet Union received a gramota, a medal "The Gold Star" and a membership in Order of Lenin. With the second nomination, only a gramota and "The Gold Star" were given. Since 1973, presumably due to the true love of that time soviet leader Brezhnev to the decorations, who was the Hero of the USSR 4! times and once a Labor Hero (The Hammer and Sickle Gold Medal), the membership in Order of Lenin was afforded with consequent nominations. Eddie. __________________ Everybody's equal, But some more than others! "Those who come to us with the sword - will be killed by the sword" - Alexander Nevski Last edited by Taz; 02-15-2004 at 11:53 AM.

02-15-2004, 08:21 AM	#5
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	Hi Esteban, Eddie is 100% right, as said in PMD p.22 article 4 author's note) __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

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