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Old 01-24-2007, 05:18 AM   #1
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Lenin + 2 ORB + 20years RKKA

Here is a group for sale on E

The 2 ORB are ok, but the Lenin is an obvious fake (everything is bad (enamel, Lenin's face, reverse, etc.) and the RKKA seems to be bad as well.

Any comment on the RKKA?
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Old 01-24-2007, 05:19 AM   #2
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Old 01-24-2007, 05:20 AM   #3
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Old 01-24-2007, 02:37 PM   #5
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Laurent, I have to agreed with you. The Lenin has a very bad reverse surface... almost looks like it was hand-made! Also, it seems that the background around Lenin's face is golden/yellow collor while it is supposed to be a kind of grey enamel/paint (not sure what it is exactly, but color seems wrong).
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Old 01-24-2007, 05:56 PM   #6
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The XX RKKA star enamel looks like paint... Looks too "red" compared to original ones I have seen both in pics and in real life. And the soldier has almost no face, and I doubt that is because of wear.
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If possible I would like to see some better pictures of the RKKA medal, it doesn't look that bad to me. Are there any documents?

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No document at all

Will ask the seller for some better scans
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If possible I would like to see some better pictures of the RKKA medal, it doesn't look that bad to me. Are there any documents?

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Alexei,

I seem to agree with you, but the two red dots between the two X seem curious... What could it be ? Paint ?

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The seller told me he will only share these scans and no other...

Not a very good seller! :mad:
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