Budionnovka - fake?

Al-muell · 10-24-2003, 06:12 AM

This one looks compleately different from the copies I've seen (and I have seen many of them), has this old style star (it looks better than on this foto - I think it's original), and has size of about 54-55. These feathures are unussual for a fake, but It looks too new to me.

Bazanov · 10-24-2003, 08:01 AM

dosent it look a bit "to perfect"?
Very shinny star and the visor looks new, but i dont know much of caps...

ericlida · 10-24-2003, 11:04 AM

I am not an expert in it, however the fabric and the style of sawing looks too new and modern. I think (it’s only my subjective opinion) it’s 100% fake.

Eric.

Kim · 10-25-2003, 11:18 AM

I agree with Eric. This looks like one of those "made from old pattern but with new cloth" type of cap. The liner is probably in unused condition.

One of the ways to check authenticity is smelling. But the problem with Russian uniforms is that they often have covered them in moth balls. That and the very common eue de colonge smell, or that's perhaps a way to hide the new smell lots of fakes have....

/Kim

otlichnik · 10-27-2003, 03:14 AM

It does look way to new and with odd stitching in this image. Any signs of aging? Why no fading? What does the lining look like? You can test the thread under black light - synthetic will glow and should not be on a budenny of this era. However, modern cotton won't glow.

Overall though it does not look very good.

Shawn

Al-muell · 10-27-2003, 06:00 AM

I didn't have much hope for this.
Only the star looks "old" (minor damage and it's a little dirty what's not visible on the picture).
I'll consider it fake and simply sell it as one.
THanks.

10-24-2003, 08:01 AM	#2
Bazanov Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 84	dosent it look a bit "to perfect"? Very shinny star and the visor looks new, but i dont know much of caps... __________________ /Fredrik

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10-24-2003, 11:04 AM	#3
ericlida Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon, USA Age: 71 Posts: 761	I am not an expert in it, however the fabric and the style of sawing looks too new and modern. I think (it’s only my subjective opinion) it’s 100% fake. Eric.

10-25-2003, 11:18 AM	#4
Kim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 227	I agree with Eric. This looks like one of those "made from old pattern but with new cloth" type of cap. The liner is probably in unused condition. One of the ways to check authenticity is smelling. But the problem with Russian uniforms is that they often have covered them in moth balls. That and the very common eue de colonge smell, or that's perhaps a way to hide the new smell lots of fakes have.... /Kim

10-27-2003, 03:14 AM	#5
otlichnik Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Age: 56 Posts: 547	It does look way to new and with odd stitching in this image. Any signs of aging? Why no fading? What does the lining look like? You can test the thread under black light - synthetic will glow and should not be on a budenny of this era. However, modern cotton won't glow. Overall though it does not look very good. Shawn

10-27-2003, 06:00 AM	#6
Al-muell Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wrocław, Poland Posts: 1,828	I didn't have much hope for this. Only the star looks "old" (minor damage and it's a little dirty what's not visible on the picture). I'll consider it fake and simply sell it as one. THanks.

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