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Old 10-18-2009, 04:07 AM   #1
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Made Up Order Of Lenin Group.

I just have these orders. i know all medals name, but they are toghter, i do not know how to say by english. who can tell me how to say in english?
understand me?
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Old 10-18-2009, 04:16 AM   #2
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Re: my 5 orders of lenin

It is a really nice labor/worker group!

- Order of Lenin
- Order of Red Banner of Labor
- Order of Labor Glory III class (wrong ribbon!)
- Medal for Valiant Labor
- Medal for Veteran of Labor
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Old 10-18-2009, 04:20 AM   #3
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Re: my 5 orders of lenin

Hi Claretbaron,

I'm not sure to understand... :confused:

In this thread, you asked for the ID of the bearer of the Order of Lenin SN 363880...

http://www.soviet-awards.com/forum/s...-document.html

But, you seem to have the document... What do you mean ?

Are these orders and the booklet yours ? What do the expert think of this booklet ?

Cheers.

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Old 10-18-2009, 04:39 AM   #4
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Re: my 5 orders of lenin

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Hi Claretbaron,

I'm not sure to understand... :confused:

In this thread, you asked for the ID of the bearer of the Order of Lenin SN 363880...

http://www.soviet-awards.com/forum/s...-document.html

But, you seem to have the document... What do you mean ?

Are these orders and the booklet yours ? What do the expert think of this booklet ?

Cheers.

Ch.
I want to know the man,who have lenin 363880, is he a worker? officer? police? or other? do you understand?
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Old 10-18-2009, 04:49 AM   #5
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Re: my 5 orders of lenin

This document (and set too) are probably assembled and do not belong to the individual who received the Lenin. Usually, for labor exploits, the Lenin would have been awarded sequentially last as the worker progressed up in responsibility and ability to accomplish even greater exploits. This booklet shows the Lenin was awarded first. Thus, I believe the Lenin and booklet were legitimately awarded to the recipient, but the subsequent labor awards, although probably genuine, were added to make the set more attractive.
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I want to know the man,who have lenin 363880, is he a worker? officer? police? or other? do you understand?
OK, now I understand. Because you let us the impression in your first thread that you ignored the ID (name...) of your man, it was surprising to know you also had the booklet... In this case, it would have helped giving its name...

For his career, I think you must launch a research that will (maybe) tell you. Impossible to know otherwise. Alexei (Nota Bene) proposed his help to you.

Cheers.

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This document (and set too) are probably assembled and do not belong to the individual who received the Lenin. Usually, for labor exploits, the Lenin would have been awarded sequentially last as the worker progressed up in responsibility and ability to accomplish even greater exploits. This booklet shows the Lenin was awarded first. Thus, I believe the Lenin and booklet were legitimately awarded to the recipient, but the subsequent labor awards, although probably genuine, were added to make the set more attractive.
Exactly what I thought. Two different styles of writing, including the date "22 March 66"...

Ch.

And I could add the wrong ribbon for the Order of Labour Glory 3rd Class is... curious. :(

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Re: my 5 orders of lenin

The first entry in the booklet is original, others are not.

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The first entry in the booklet is original, others are not.

Alexei
I think so. if lenin is last medal in book, it mybe right.
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