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Old 01-08-2012, 01:28 PM   #1
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The History Of Suspension?

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(...) Strange to see how the "Danish" style suspension is still prevailing in so many places which historically have no ties with Danmark.(...)
Hi Ctahhr,

Maybe I'm lost here, but what do you mean with this "Danish" style suspension ?

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Re: The New Gold Star Order

This is the traditional Danish style of suspension as seen by this 1844 designed award.

If a more historically and culturally appropriately accurate award is suspended around the neck on a fine piece of string so be it. We must remember that Viet Nam has been heavily corrupted by the French Empire as well as the Soviet Empire which is why for some reason they now use the Latin alphabet rather than a locally devised script such as the Kingdoms of Thailand and Cambodia.
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This is the traditional Danish style of suspension as seen by this 1844 designed award..
So.. This means that the 1943 Soviet style suspensions has been inspired by this Danish style... And the Rusian Empire as well...

I really don't know.. Why not...

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Re: The New Gold Star Order

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So.. This means that the 1943 Soviet style suspensions has been inspired by this Danish style... And the Rusian Empire as well...

I really don't know.. Why not...

Thanks for the explanation.
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Sure, Denmark has been and is sooooo influential.

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Re: The New Gold Star Order

Dagmar? Or in other words Мария Фёдоровна?
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...Strange to see how the "Danish" style suspension is still prevailing in so many places which historically have no ties with Danmark...
I am not sure where that "Danish" term is coming from, but how come the Order of St George 4th class, instituted in 1769 by Catherine the Great, happened to be awarded on the all familiar 5-sided suspension back then?

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Re: The New Gold Star Order

Would that be the Middle German born Catherine? Who was married to Danish (Kiel was Danish until 1864) born Peter III who was born to the duke of Holstein-Gottorp which was also in union with Danmark?

How about the ribbon on the Dannebrogordenen which was founded in 1671?
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Re: The New Gold Star Order

Don't show modern styles of wearing, show period illustrations (paintings) please.
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I don't know about period pictures of Danes but here are two period pictures of Russians not wearing the Danish style ribbon in 1777 and 1854.

Kutuzov in 1777 and Tihotskij in 1854.

The imperial Russian award system has certainly got more interest and write ups than the Danish system. Not that the Danish award system isn't also very intriguing too.
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Re: The New Gold Star Order

This is all a very interesting topic and a very interesting discussion, but I fear we are cluttering-up "GabrielMk3"'s equally interesting and valuable thread by doing all this here. Can surgery be done to this thread to create something new on the history of suspensions? (Assuming there isn't an old, buried thread that addresses this?)
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