If Mondvor serves me right this is a type 9 Knizhka, from 1990/91. Орденская книжка Тип 9
Why/how a 1946 date got in that is beyond me.
"patina imparts character" - PJS
A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'
It could be as a catch-up award. In this case, the basis for the award would be the date of the original prikaz, not the date the order was effectively given.
Thanks. I was wondering if that would be the case.
And could you explain "prikaz" for me, please? The initial document recommending an award?
"patina imparts character" - PJS
A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'
Prikaz, ukaz, for our purpose, it is all the same. It is the official document directing that a specific person be awarded a specific OMD. So, effectively, it is the last link in the chain.
Before the temorary award certificate was issued (if issued), and then one more step before the actual knizhka, right?
"patina imparts character" - PJS
A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'
The usual "chain of events" was:
. Writing up a recommendation for award (what we usually refer to as "Citation"): Наградной Лист
. The recommendation went up through several levels for review/confirmation/alteration (upgrading/downgrading/rejecting)
. Once approved by the top level, it became the basis for awarding. The unit then issued an order for awarding (Приказ) based on the decision taken previously by the top level.
So, an awarding "ceremony" was organized and awards were given out along with a temporary certificate (although sometimes, the actual order booklet could be given directly).
I just saw this on that well known auction site. HSU #5218 with accompanying order booklet. The order booklet is phony. It appears to be an old booklet, with page 3 doctored.
The Order of Lenin serial number to #5218 is incorrect, and the booklet
number to both awards is totally off! Thank goodness there are great reference books out there!!!
As for the HSU itself, it is really dinged and scratched. Since the booklet is a fake, I have NO confidence on the hero medal itself.
The seller fails to include a photo of the inside cover and page #1. Why? It would have the recipients name. Why doesn't the seller disclose the hero's name? He shows pages 3 and 4.
The number seems to indicate 1945 (or,less likely 1944), the boolket looks like normal 1950 booklet, wear looks genuine, had a photograph once (traces visible - glue and deformation of the page), not impossible for a ex-soldier to get a catch-up or a wound award.
What is strange is the lack of the award date and issue date.
Got it among other docs, so no problem if it turns out to be fake, just want to make sure.
