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Fake Order And Medal Booklets
OK, so we can assumethat both date and signature were added by some faker. What about the booklet itself?
I have found an example of a KGB irreproachable service medals booklet from 1958 on nondvor.narod.ru site (added below), and it's different, mainly in that that it has the full name: "KGB at the Council of Ministers of the USSR" given everywhere.

So, is my booklet a fantasy, or just a late version that someone had been playing with?


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Al-muell,

I also have two of these booklets (the one you showed first). These are always available with a very small price tag, and show a number of questionable features (stamp, title, etc).

I believe that these were made for collectors a few years ago.

Marc
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So much for the nice KGB doc :mad:
Guess I should be happy, as at least the medal turned out to be OK.

I will never understand the fakers - was this document made this way on purpose?
I mean, the person who made it must have seen the original one (both this and the example from mondvor.narod.ru differ from e.g. Armed Forces version in the same feathures), yet he has made it easy to recognise by using the wrong name. Heck, even in souvenir "KGB IDs" they use the full name "KGB at the CoM of the USSR"...

On the other hand, I have just noticed that the name was actually shortened in 1978. According to Russian wikipedia:
КГБ при СМ СССР (1954—1978)
КГБ СССР (1978—1991)
So it seems that the name in the doc is actually correct.
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How about this one? The Red Star looks fine to me, but I'm not as sure about the ORBL.

Thanks! :thumbsup

Alex


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Alex,

Both entries look :thumbsup to me.

Marc
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This was sold as a group but i was and i am uncertain on the names. :confused:
The price was good so i took it anyway but now i would like to know if it is ok or i have to split it.

What do you think about it?

Thank you
Airon


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I am no expert to tell wether it is OK, but it seems to me that it was the same person - just someone had problems with transcribing Armenian name to Russian.
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Al-muell Wrote:I am no expert to tell wether it is OK, but it seems to me that it was the same person - just someone had problems with transcribing Armenian name to Russian.

Thanks Al!
If you take'em individually they seems kosher to me.
The big question mark i had was with the name: i'm pretty lame at reading russian... so you can imagine my skills with the transliterations as well. :rolleyes:
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I agree with Al-muell. On the first document his name is transliterated as Sergei Yegishevich Sargsyan and on the other as Seryozha [diminutive form of "Sergei"] Yegishovich Sarkisyan.
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Instructive discussion here. Thanks. I don't think we should never underestimate the problems that the Soviets had with non-Russian exotic names. (No different than others.)
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