Fake Order And Medal Booklets

[catone67]

stamps and hand writing entries look like very blurry for me. But i'm not a expert in vintage soviet papers, so i ask opinions of people more informed on this kind of things ;)

[CtahhR]

The quality of the paper wasn't very high due to the troubles caused by the war and the shortages. Couple that with the fact that these were carried on the holder and it can often rain. Extremely rarely are these extremely commonplace items (10s of millions) faked.

[catone67]

thanks for your explanation!
medal booklet sound good your too ?

[CtahhR]

Both items are original and unmodified.

Red Army Soldier/Private Anton Antonovich Makarevich was born in 1926 in the village of Chervonyj Majak, Ukraine and was in the Red Army from 1943 serving in the 513th Rifle Regiment. The VOG was awarded by a Senior Lieutenant Pronij of his home Military Commissariat of Solonjan. Unfortunately I can't make out his specialist trade.

This is a partial group as he was still alive in 1985 to be awarded the OPW1.

[catone67]

Thanks, for all the informations!
too bad for me, find it on our well know auction website few time ago...

If have good memory, when i bring back the lot, have too with it a "umalatova" 120 Years Of I. V. Stalin medal. Don't know if it was put together with the lot or if this man was really awarded (have no booklet for this one so, mystery! ^^)

[CtahhR]

"Umalatova" items with or without documents are a completely different issue. The only real way to know if the "recipient" wore the "award" is to have a photograph. Otherwise it is just a fairytale.

The organisational awards of post-Soviet states (primarily the Russian Federation) is such an area of contention that it could be debated forever with no definitive conclusion.


Suffice to say "Umalatova" Orders and Medals don't include a citation but may include a receipt.

Here is an original Red Star with booklet offered for sale that has had 3 additions. The Red Star is legitimate and awarded for killing 30 fascists in August 1943 (when the Red Star wasn't a long service award!) but the OPW 1, 2 and BH 2 are all fictional. A real shame the three extras have been penned in or I'd have snapped it up as a solid Red Star.

[Al-muell]

Arrived recently. The booklet itself is original (printed in 1957), but what about the entries?

[CtahhR]

The first one lines up with "for Wounds" but no other information than that. There were no "For Service" awards on that date so that is certainly a fake entry.

[Al-muell]

Looked suspicious from the beggining.:mad:
However, Isn't it possible that he had e.g. a long service CSM before 1957 in a separate booklet?

[CtahhR]

It is very possible that the OPWII for wounds was his only award. He may not have been in service more than a few moments on the front, let alone "long service" so without further research we won't know. An OPWII for wounds back then would mean a pretty serious wound (like losing two limbs or vision etc) so probably far from fit for military service. As this person isn't on "the site" for an OPW'85, the wounds could have been so severe they succumbed to them even if they were just in their teens when wounded.

Usually folks who receive the "for wounds" are due to them contributing to the state in a civilian role even though extremely disabled and also not had any other awards.