Eric, difficult to say on these and hard to tell definitively w/o actual research - I'd have to look in my s/n data base and even that's not definitive.
I will say I don't like the appearance of those particular s/ns at first look. Our forgers have become more educated and gotten better at placing the mines. In Kiev particularly they've gotten good at bleaching out the info and adding their own, especially as many collectors (there too) bitten by the Soviet bug have to get their fixes with lower-scale items, like these docs.
Do the multiple entries in different inks and handwriting automatically doom this as altered by forgers?
Or could it happen? It seems to me as time passed and awards were aquired a troopers book would gain entries at different times by different hands.
Is there any hard and fast rule about this, or at least some guidlines when looking at award book entries?
Thanks!
"patina imparts character" - PJS
A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'
Pretty crappy picture. Usually, these were done by the commissariat after a veteran's return home - in such a case usually dated '46 or '47 you would want consistency.
In your particular case the book looks dated FEB 45, so it would be understandable if other awards could have been added. In this case you could use Echoes and if one of the later-added awards was earlier than the initial entry, it's probably bad.
desantnik Wrote:Usually, these were done by the commissariat after a veteran's return home - in such a case usually dated '46 or '47. You could use Echoes and if one of the later-added awards was earlier than the initial entry, it's probably bad.
See, this is the sort of tip I'm talking about.
I know I'm a bit thicker than most but I just learned that (and correct me if I'm wrong) that a vet of the GPW, who was deactivated in 45/46/47 got an Order Booklet (or Medals Certificate) and that was that; what he got in the GPW was just about all he got and that was all that would show up in these booklets. Anything else would be fakers trying to, uh, fake things, or less-often handwritten enties for those few who served in the Soviet AF right after the GPW.
"patina imparts character" - PJS
A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'
