strange officer cap - transition pre-55? - Page 2

Lapa · 04-04-2007, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Al-muell

Unless I am mistaken m45 had no piping - they could have a padding from the cloth in uniform's color, but not in branch colour.
In addition - if they are a set with the shoulderboards (and they ARE) They cannot be m45, because this style of shoulderboarsd was not used before 1955 (with minor exceptions ,maybe). Also if m45 they would have to be cavalry - no other branch would have this colour scheme at that time. And this seems unlikely to me.

Al-Muell,

Here is an M45 NKVD troops parade uniform :D

Marc

Al-muell · 04-04-2007, 01:15 PM

OK, so They were piped. My mistake. Did it apply for all branches or just for NKVD Troops?

It is also correct thet in 1949 Armor troops and AF had this style of boards (the exceptions I've mentioned). However, this boards and tabs are neither for AF nor for armor troops.

Jeffrey Meffert · 04-04-2007, 10:08 PM

A medical m43 parade and a comissary/logistics m43 parade I have background cloth the same color as the uniform wool. my nkvd m43 parade is piped in blue as above.

Al-muell · 04-05-2007, 08:48 AM

OK, I have an armor troops and they are not piped. So maybe the piping was worn only by NKVD?
But there's another problem. The boards are have both piping and stripes in royal blue colour, and this colour scheme was, I think used since the creation of MGB. After all, original NKWD colours were brick red/royal blue. Thay cannot be for engeneers either, since they would be royal blue/black.
And oce again: the shoulderboards are non m45! They can at best be m49 and I doubt MGB (or whatever the name was at that time) had special uniforms then.
I also think that there was some transitional uniform in 1954 - I remember seeing a picture in "Military uniforms of the Armed Forces of the USSR and Russia 1917 - 1990's". Unfortunately I don't have the book at hand...

vikingraider1 · 05-02-2007, 08:59 PM

There was a M1955 Uniform which was grey in colour. I have two examples. One KGB and one is armour. They were only used for three years. They conisisted of a grey tunic and cap with dark blue breeches. This was a parade unfirom only.

05-02-2007, 08:59 PM	#15
vikingraider1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London, Home of West Ham United Age: 54 Posts: 328	There was a M1955 Uniform which was grey in colour. I have two examples. One KGB and one is armour. They were only used for three years. They conisisted of a grey tunic and cap with dark blue breeches. This was a parade unfirom only. __________________ "We can truly say that the whole circuit of the earth is girdled with the graves of our dead... and, in the course of my pilgrimage, I have many times asked myself whether there can be more potent advocates of peace upon earth through the years to come, than this massed multitude of silent witnesses to the desolation of war." King George V, Flanders, 1922

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04-04-2007, 01:15 PM	#12
Al-muell Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wrocław, Poland Posts: 1,828	OK, so They were piped. My mistake. Did it apply for all branches or just for NKVD Troops? It is also correct thet in 1949 Armor troops and AF had this style of boards (the exceptions I've mentioned). However, this boards and tabs are neither for AF nor for armor troops.

04-05-2007, 08:48 AM	#14
Al-muell Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wrocław, Poland Posts: 1,828	OK, I have an armor troops and they are not piped. So maybe the piping was worn only by NKVD? But there's another problem. The boards are have both piping and stripes in royal blue colour, and this colour scheme was, I think used since the creation of MGB. After all, original NKWD colours were brick red/royal blue. Thay cannot be for engeneers either, since they would be royal blue/black. And oce again: the shoulderboards are non m45! They can at best be m49 and I doubt MGB (or whatever the name was at that time) had special uniforms then. I also think that there was some transitional uniform in 1954 - I remember seeing a picture in "Military uniforms of the Armed Forces of the USSR and Russia 1917 - 1990's". Unfortunately I don't have the book at hand...

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